LaPierre's speech

LaPierre's speech

This is a discussion on LaPierre's speech within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; I'm SO glad he's shoving back at Hollywood for their part in the insanity, it's a BIG part IMO. Of course the clueless dummys have ...

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    LaPierre's speech

    I'm SO glad he's shoving back at Hollywood for their part in the insanity, it's a BIG part IMO.

    Of course the clueless dummys have to shout him down.
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    Isn't it ironic that so many "stars" who have made their millions in gun movies are so quick to claim to be Antis? I'd like to see them put their money where their mouths are and refuse to act in any movies with guns or violence. I bet their egos and wallets won't stop them.
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    That is not the problem...it is the same thing as blaming the gun, not the person.
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    If you think movies and games are to blame, you are just as irrational as the gun control people.
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    Thought he was................+1.

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    My Wife and I were watching until local Fox 12 in Oregon decided it was more important to go to a Commercial break Grrrrrr....

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    I thought they outlined their(my) viewpoints well. They didn't dwell on the movie/video industry, just mentioned it as a part of this problem, which are many. Didn't "give-in" on any rights, produced a viable solution to the matter, given the gravity of the issue, the probems that lie ahead, job well done.
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    No, movies and games are not, by themselves, to blame. A normal, adjusted person can watch and play them 24/7 and never go out and kill anyone.

    However, a mentally ill kook, marinating in violence, is a different story. They mix up reality and fantasy and then sometimes act on it. Every single mass killing since Columbine has had the video game component to it.

    So, Hollywood can take a bow in their part of this maddness. Meanwhile, "it's the NRA's fault".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    No, movies and games are not, by themselves, to blame. A normal, adjusted person can watch and play them 24/7 and never go out and kill anyone.

    However, a mentally ill kook, marinating in violence, is a different story. They mix up reality and fantasy and then sometimes act on it. Every single mass killing since Columbine has had the video game component to it.

    So, Hollywood can take a bow in their part of this maddness. Meanwhile, "it's the NRA's fault".
    I don't follow your logic...so because of mentally unstable people video games and movies need to be changed so the violence is reduced? Sorry, if I like blood and gore and playing HALO or my son does then that is our business.

    Hollywood is not responsible for any of this. If you are placing any blame on them then you really need to look at the source of the guns which are the manufacturers...and I don't think you want to go there.

    Just another excuse.
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    I thought they did a good job of not stirring the pot further by talking about the AWB or having school personnel armed. Their approach was appropriate, I believe.
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    Did we really think the NRA would cave in to the WH??

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    I think he did an excellent job. He stayed on topic, didn't back down, and offered VERY good solutions to some of the problems. I was waiting on renewing my NRA membership until the news conference to see what would be said. I will now be renewing for a lifetime membership. They need all the help and support we can give them. They have some good ideas and they need our help to get them put into action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    No, movies and games are not, by themselves, to blame. A normal, adjusted person can watch and play them 24/7 and never go out and kill anyone.

    However, a mentally ill kook, marinating in violence, is a different story. They mix up reality and fantasy and then sometimes act on it. Every single mass killing since Columbine has had the video game component to it.

    So, Hollywood can take a bow in their part of this maddness. Meanwhile, "it's the NRA's fault".
    OK...but shouldn't all of us law abiding no-mentally I'll people have the freedom to watch these films and play these games if we want to? Does the argument sound familiar? I know, I know, video games and movies aren't specifically addressed in the BOR but I think my argument still stands. The violent video game and movie argument takes personal responsibility out of the equation and ultimately that is the same thing as blaming the gun.

    EDIT - to be clear...other than that small portion of the speech, I agreed with everything that was said and think the School Shield Program is a great idea.

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    In response to the movies/video game situation... it isn't the job of the movie and video game industries to parent children who are more susceptible to violence. There are rating on movies and video games for this reason, and it is the parents' job to raise their children and to expose them to and shelter them from such things according to what they believe is best for their children.

    It's easy to put the blame on others so that we don't have to take responsibility, but we are all responsible for how we raise our children. I don't have to own a TV or Xbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NMB View Post
    If you think movies and games are to blame, you are just as irrational as the gun control people.
    Ok, I'll agree somewhat. But are you currently playing Kindergarten Killer in your home? Do you let your kids or grandkids play this game?

    I agree with Wayne, that it's pornography.
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