What Do YOU Think?

What Do YOU Think?

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    What Do YOU Think?

    I've been around a long time and witnessed a lot of history, and made some associations of where we are today. I could be totally off base but, I don't believe so. This is not a scientific study and I don't have any facts to back up my opinions, other than some research on a number of high political figures, university / college officials, public school officials, media owners, and Hollywood stars, directors and producers.

    Back in my day, we had the hippies, experimental drug users, massive Vietnam war protests, draft card burning and "make love, not war" people. In general, these misfits had an agenda of self, not country or respect for those that served or were serving, nor trying to stop the communist threat that eventually would spread and effect us all. I could tell you how I was in uniform traveling from point A to point B serving my country and got spat upon, called baby killer, etc. many times but, my rant is not about my personal experience, it's about liberal thinking and loss of critical thought.

    They were / are pacifists and appeasers willing to roll over and play dead and wonder why we just can't all get along? Today those same high profile individuals I checked have never performed any community service, served in any capacity in the military, and by percentage, are the lowest of all Americans contributing to a charity. They are all self centered and about me, me, me. They want to do good for the under privledged and poor, not with their money but yours, in the form of taxes and programs, to appease and control the mass.

    Those same people who dodged the draft, spit on returning veterans, experimented with drugs, obtained a college education provided by their rich parents or government grants, are now in the position of authority and influeance in state / federal government, colleges, universities, public schools, major media and Hollywood. If I'm correct, think about the influeance that is exerted to young minds developing today and our present and future leaders, politicians and educators.

    The NEA supplies a list of liberal books the public schools are required to teach from and are tested for adherence. The federal government has taken away control of the family, state and local communities to educate our own children. In my own childrens public school, they were taught how to put on a condom, HIV awareness, alternitve life styles are to be celebrated, no more prayer allowed, all Christmas celebrations and decorations must be inclusive and not offensive to others, and eventually they even outlawed saying the Pledge of Allegiance during first period. They've even made it difficult and interfere with home education under threat of imprisionment.

    They have been taught and believe sovereignty is a bad thing, and a global one world government is the solution to war, famine, unfair advantage, economics, trade barriers, finance and world policing.

    Getting there real fast now... The United Nations (UN), World Bank (WB), World Trade Organization (WTO), NAFTA, GATT, World Court, the World Armed Forces is next. If you're not aware, we are required by trade agreement (law) to purchase X amount of food, goods and services from other nations instead of our own nation, to even out our living standards between nations eventually. That's an undisputed fact guys!

    All this anti-American by no means started during the Vietnam war but, it sure has accelerated it IMHO since the draft card burning days. There was such a mass of protesters that the government immediately went to a lottery draft system, and now an all volunteer military. Please correct me if my views are skewed.

    What's your views y'all?

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    Evil has always had a plan friend. For it's plan to succeed it has to destroy the bright shining city on the hill that gives hope to those in need. That city is the USA. That hope is freedom.
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    I can draw a connection to the Liberals protests today and in the 1960s. The Hippies have grown up. That is why I think we should legalize marijuana so they can go get high and eat cheeseburgers. Maybe they will be to lazy to keep this anti American stuff up.

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    OP, sorry about your bad experiences, but I think you are over generalizing. It is just always too easy to
    focus on the negatives and look for things to blame. My next comment is not aimed at you, but in my experience
    folks who are angry and frustrated and unnerved by the world around them often need to take a good hard
    look at themselves instead of placing blame on externals.

    IMO evil in the "spiritual" sense does not exist; but we can't go further with that discussion as we'd need to get
    into things that will get us all points. Certainly though, there are bad people and people gone bad. Always have been,
    always will be, and external events have nothing to do with it. There are good people in the darkest of circumstances
    and really bad people in the best of circumstances. The newsy papers are always picking up stories of
    of murders done by people who have it all--- except self control.
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    You kind of touched on my theory that the hippies are the underlying cause of today's problems. "They" are the ones running the show now, so...
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    Isn't it odd that the hippies of the 60's who hated anyone over 30 and despised big government are the people today that LOVE big government and want it to be part of every aspect of their lives?
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    The hippies also managed to breed prolifically and use your tax dollars to encourage generations more of the same. With moochers outnumbering the productive types, it promotes an environment rich for a never-ending GimmeDat mentality. Me, me, me, me, me. We went through a touchy-feely wave of raising kids that were overindulged, never told "no," and taught that "everybody is a winner." And when those grow up and reproduce, they have no good foundation to be good parents and...

    Society can be judged by how we're dressed. How you dress is who you are. Looking back at fashion over the decades, when did it all go into a hand basket? The 1960s. And went downhill from there.

    I'm happy to be a work-from-home mom. There's a lot of liberal "feminists" who would crinkle their noses at my choice, but I could care less. I intend to keep good consistency in my household and my children will grow to be well-rounded, confident, productive patriots.
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    I think you are painting with a very broad brush.

    I was a partying, pot smoking long haired kid back in the day. Of course my friends were too. I got older and simply grew out of it. While I don't view myself as an extreme right wing person I did vote for Reagan, both Bush's, and Romney. Having said that I have strong feelings the only difference the voting makes, after Reagan, is how quickly we become a socialist state, but that is another conversation.

    It would appear that most of my old friends grew out of the pot smoking party days too. It appears very few of them voted for Obama. Most of them post their religious, 2A, general conservative stuff on Facebook, etc. I don't see much in the way of left politics from them.

    As for military service, the draft was ended about 4 months before I turned 18. I had no interest in inlisting at the time. I had watched my older brother get drafted and shipped off to Vietnam, very much against his will. But ya know what, he went, killed the enemy and came home, physically in tact and mostly mentally in tact.

    Yes he was berated by the ignorant public when he came home. But you know where he got the worst treatment? It was at the local VFW from the Korean and WW II vets. They shunned him like he was a leper. So much for the "brotherhood".

    Neither my brother or I have a college education paid for by our rich parents. There weren't any monetarily rich parents in my house. It was just our Mom that worked her ass off raising 2 boys the best she knew. Personally I think she did a pretty good job!

    I didn't outwardly protest the Vietnam war but I sure didn't like the idea that my big brother was over there getting shot at. Actually these days, including the Vietnam era, it's so much more about politics than it is anything else. This police the world crap needs to stop, Afghanistan, etc. Our soldiers are dying for no good reason. Bring them home now! So do those statements make me some sort of commie!

    As for the respect of our soldiers, I hold our fighting men and woman in the highest regard. I will take the liberty of painting with a broad brush but I think many people learned their lesson from the Vietnam war that the soldiers do as they are ordered, they don't make policy, and most of the population will not treat vets as they once did during the Vietnam era.

    Anyway, after that I would urge you to paint with a little narrower brush, just as I would hope the "left" would paint with a little narrower brush in regards to gun owners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    Isn't it odd that the hippies of the 60's who hated anyone over 30 and despised big government are the people today that LOVE big government and want it to be part of every aspect of their lives?
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    IMO..........things will start to get better with the next generation after the babyboomers are gone.

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    I both represent and resent that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxplosive View Post
    IMO..........things will start to get better with the next generation after the babyboomers are gone.
    As long as most realize its not about them. Too many of the Gen Y and beyond are all about themselves and not society as a whole.
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    Partying and growing your hair long didn't necessairly make you a hippie. I consider it more of a political mind set than anything.

    And darbo, I completely understand you not wanting to see your brother go to Viet Nam. NO one wants to see their loved one go to war. Viet Nam was a disaster. We should have listened to the French when they told us it was a hopeless cause to get involved. It would have saved us a lot of pain.

    The ex hippies I really dislike are the Bill Ayers-Bernadett Dohrn types. Wealthy, spoiled brats in the 60's and uber wealthy, spoiled brats now...only with a lot of power and influence.
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    Re: What Do YOU Think?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    Partying and growing your hair long didn't necessairly make you a hippie. I consider it more of a political mind set than anything.

    And darbo, I completely understand you not wanting to see your brother go to Viet Nam. NO one wants to see their loved one go to war. Viet Nam was a disaster. We should have listened to the French when they told us it was a hopeless cause to get involved. It would have saved us a lot of pain.

    The ex hippies I really dislike are the Bill Ayers-Bernadett Dohrn types. Wealthy, spoiled brats in the 60's and uber wealthy, spoiled brats now...only with a lot of power and influence.
    I wonder if we should have listened to the Russians about Afghanistan?
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    Rats!
    It could be worse!
    I suppose

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    [QUOTE=Hopyard; in my experience
    folks who are angry and frustrated and unnerved by the world around them often need to take a good hard
    look at themselves instead of placing blame on externals.[/QUOTE]

    Hopyard, I think this quote sums up what the op thinks of the hippies grown older! DR

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