Post By ccw9mm
January 9th, 2013 02:49 PM
More attacks on the Constitution (4th Amendment next on the chopping block)
Supreme Court to decide whether police can take your blood without your permission - U.S. News
This is what happens when those embracing the "nanny state" will trade away freedom for the illusion of security. MSM seems to understand the gravity of this infringement on the 4th. Why is it so easy for media to dismiss 2A supporters as "gun nuts" and not call 4A supporters "body, life, property, and DNA extremists"?
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January 9th, 2013 04:38 PM
The 4th ,2nd,1st and 10th have been under attack for decades. So have the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th Articles. : (
January 9th, 2013 04:40 PM
The 3rd Amendment is the only one of the first ten that hasn't been degraded
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January 9th, 2013 05:00 PM
Depends on the details of the case and the ruling.
Originally Posted by From the article
Looking at the wording of the 4A:
... it's not a stretch to accept that someone clearly caught drunk/influenced while driving/crashing provides hard to ignore reasonableness to search.
Fourth Amendment of the Constitution:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Trouble is, doing so against a person's will runs smack into the 5A's protections against self-incrimination.
Seems to me that reasonableness absolutely ends when a search becomes bodily invasive and against one's desire to avoid self-incrimination.
But then, DNA's already used to tie folks to crimes. While I don't have results of studies of the many such crime investigations at my fingertips, I'm betting the logic of reasonableness in those cases would be much the same as with DUI's.
I have a hard time seeing the SCOTUS claiming it's an unreasonable search, particularly given the slope we're already on.
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the number of victims?
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January 9th, 2013 05:45 PM
So I assume that state troopers and local law enforcement would have to be trained on how to draw blood, even from people who are physically resisting or severely inebriated. Yeah, that sounds like a great idea.
January 9th, 2013 05:53 PM
Plus there could be something in the obamacare laws that has something to do with it.
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