Wow MCP1810, you've got stamina brother! You're like a one man truth squad deflecting the rays emanating from their tin foil hats for three straight days:smile:
I am not saying that there are not evil conspiracies out there. Just that there is not credible evidence that this (or Aurora) is one of them. When we jump on the conspiracy band wagon our credibility gets called into question. We need to be sure our theories are based on a solid foundation. If they can easily show what we are claiming to be the truth as fiction that can be used to call all of our beliefs into question. This is part of what aggravates me about Alex Jones and his ilk. We need to be the calm, logical, and rational ones. Spouting off all this chicken little sky is falling crap makes it easier to marginalize us and write us off as crack pots.
As far as the government coming up with tragic gun related incidents to advance the gun grabbers agenda I don't see it. An operation like that would have to involve dozens of people. Each and every one of them a security risk for the operation. Why bother?
With a population of over three hundred million and hundreds of millions of weapons in the hands of private citizens, odds are that sooner or later something is going to happen. That is the price of a free society. Why involve dozens or hundreds of people any of whom could collect evidence of the conspiracy and expose it? All they need to do is write up their desired new laws and wait.
They don't need a conspiracy, all they need is patience.
I'm going to buy stock in aluminum foil
Everyone needs to go on youtube and checkout the 30 minute video of Sandy Hook Conspiracy.......it will really make you think. I want to see some hardcore evidence that this ever really happened....!!!!
Seriously? Is this where we've come that we read something on the internet, see a video that anyone can make (no, I haven't seen it, nor will I ever), or receive an email that is beyond reality and we not only believe it but spread it as fact or possible fact.
I seriously am concerned about us as a society.
I'm still stuck on the "grassy knoll" theory. I need to move on.
Yes, move on. I haven't been on the grassy knoll since Nov. '63.
Investigation is 'very complex' - Video on TODAY.com A new release on the guns.
I have no doubt the shooting happened. I also have little doubt that certain officials had statements, legislative documents, and press releases prepared, and prepped by anti-2a gun lobby, prior to an event. This does not mean it was a conspiracy, it is just the event they were looking for to push forward.
IMHO, if an AR was not used in the shooting, what happened was some early information was wrong, they ran with what they had prepared (because it is not as if the facts mattered to the anti-2a agenda).
Going to be real interesting is it becomes 100% clear that there was never an AR. I've read shotgun in car, 4 semi-auto pistols. He never reloaded, just grabbed the next firearm. However at this point, the truth is known by few (and all I know is from several conflicting reports). Some have stated that the AR was in a 3rd party's car, a doomsday prepper type, who just keep the AR in their car for SHTF. Completely unrelated to the shooter.
At the same time, maybe an AR was used, we just don't know. That is what is really scary. Laws are being passed because of an event, and we don't know what happened at the event, and even then, how could any of these laws have prevented the event.
Let me throw something out that nobody has mentioned yet... Lanza's mom was a gun enthusiast and supposedly took him shooting. So he knew something about guns. And there is evidence that he had been planning this for some time. So if you were going to try to take out as many people as possible, which gun would you take? A couple of pistols or a .223 Bushmaster with several 30 round mags? Seems pretty common sense to me. Also, there would be a bunch of shell casings as well as the bullets themselves. They were no doubt collected.
I have never been a conspiracy believe myself. This one though, stinks to high heaven and I am on the bandwagon.
THE MOST EVIL MAN ALIVE - YouTube
Would you be smiling if your daughter had just been brutally murdered?