This is a discussion on Funny and sad: English teacher ends gun-related discussion in unusual way within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; This just happened on Facebook between myself and a high school English teacher of many years: I actually didn't intend on any snark, but I ...
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This just happened on Facebook between myself and a high school English teacher of many years:
I actually didn't intend on any snark, but I can see where she's coming from. Still, I'm perplexed that an English teacher would claim too many words in a conversation are a bad thing.
That's not unusual. I find that denial is rampant. They refuse to discuss the Elephant in the room. They ignore it.
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Sounds like she knows she is 100% outclassed in the discussion, knows she is wrong and can not handle being OWNED!
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Common tactic. "I'm not listening to you anymore because you actually have something to say and I acted like I wanted a conversation."
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An English teacher that describes a situation as "Lots of sucky stuff"? It sounds like they hung up their "english teacher coat" on their way out the school door. I don't blame her. I wouldn't want to read a whole bunch of paragraphs about stuff I don't wanna hear or care about if I'm not getting paid to grade it.
PS. It seems like she felt the picture said all she had to say on the subject and it really wasn't up for further discussion.
Numbers can be spun a zillion different ways.
1.38 million gun deaths since 1968: how many resulted from criminal acts? How many were at the hands of authorized law enforcement? How many involved illegally-possessed firearms?
How many deaths over the same period of time from alcohol-related automobile crashes (I won't say 'accidents")?
Ditto deaths from tobacco use (talk about a preventable cause!)?
How many deaths by "medical misadventure" over the same time?
And just to season the argument (and one might invoke the tired old saw "if it saves just ONE life...") - how many deaths were prevented by guns in the same time period? It's sad how the "progressivel" minds are so slow to see anything positive if it contradicts their argument.
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Interesting that the English teacher posts things as fact without sources. Given that they usually harp on their students for not providing sources when writing papers.
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Make an excuse, pin it on the person owning your butt in a discussion and back out citing that they wronged you. Standard tactic of people losing an argument. I get it all the time. It wasn't snarky, but i guess it could be interpreted as that. But that is splitting hairs. Good for you for staying calm. I think I write calm when discussing some stuff with fools I talk to.
BigJon
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The teacher, in my mind, clearly asked for a debate by posting a polarized point of view which laid charges at the door of those who would defend gun ownership. You don't do this if what you want is a 'discussion' or 'conversation.' And as for clarifying her own views, again, why post what she did, instead of a question or thought in her own words?
What happened is she wanted to do a 'drive by' kind of post (sorry, I don't FB so have no idea what the lingo is on this). She must have regretted it when she saw the 'shock and awe' campaign the OP unleashed. But that's what happens. If you want to converse, you don't take a charged position in the first place.
Just my 2 cents.
BTW, I wonder how many of those deaths are suicides? Kind of takes the air out of that argument if a huge proportion of them would have happend some other way, drugs, carbon monoxide, falling from high places. Should we ban pharmaceuticals, internal combustion engines and tall buildings? FWIW, I think you were kind of easy on her.
Cheers and carry on.
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In my experience, most people on facebook use posts as statements of solidarity with a particular view and do not like it challenged. Its hard to argue for a statement that didn't actually come out of your own mouth from your own reasoning. Responding to these posts usually goes downhill very quickly.Originally Posted by GunsAndViolince
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Trying to confuse the discussion with "facts" .... ???
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Chief Justice John Roberts : "I don't see how you can read Heller and not take away from it the notion that the Second Amendment...was extremely important to the framers in their view of what liberty meant."
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How dare you show your snark to a teacher! Go stand in the corner, and while your at it, wear the dunce cap!!!
She sounds like most anti's, they can be bothered with little things like facts.
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