Lawsuit filed by bystander in Empire Building shooting.

Lawsuit filed by bystander in Empire Building shooting.

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    Lawsuit filed by bystander in Empire Building shooting.

    I did not look up the original story but this stems from the incident where the NYPD officers shot up everything except the suspect.

    NC woman sues NYPD over Empire State shooting

    MINEOLA, N.Y. — A North Carolina college student hit by police gunfire during a shooting outside the Empire State Building argued in a lawsuit Tuesday that the police department and the officers involved need better training to deal with such confrontations in the future.

    Nine bystanders, including 32-year-old Chenin Duclos, were hit by police bullets, ricochets and fragments when two officers fired at a man suspected of gunning down a former co-worker outside the Manhattan landmark.

    Duclos said in a lawsuit filed Tuesday in Manhattan's state Supreme Court that the department and the officers were "grossly negligent" in the way they handled the shooting — firing 16 shots on a crowded street outside one of the world's largest tourist attractions.

    Amy Marion, an attorney representing Duclos in the lawsuit, said the NYPD needs to improve training.

    "They consistently fail to properly train employees and officers in the settings they will encounter," she said.

    The city's law department said officers had to make a quick decision in dealing with a life-threatening situation, and they would be vigorously defended.
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    What took so long? PDs are accountable for every bullet fired also. Next time they'll only shoot 14 rounds.
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    Re: Lawsuit filed by bystander in Empire Building shooting.

    I'll keep this in mind if I ever feal I'm about to make the choice to use my sidearm.

    Do not ever forget the safety rules, especially the one about "knowing your target and what is beyond", especially in a public setting.
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    It really is a miracle no one was killed. I wonder if they'll get more training though. Bloomberg has soda bans to deal with an is very, very busy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    It really is a miracle no one was killed. I wonder if they'll get more training though. Bloomberg has soda bans to deal with an is very, very busy.
    Maybe instead of more training they could come out with a NY3 trigger, which requires fifty pounds of pressure to activate the trigger instead of the current 12.
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    Maybe with the 7 round mag limit they will be unable to shoot as many times.
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    IMO...........Bloomberg should disarm the entire NY Police Dept. .... much like the Bobbies is London.
    No need for more guns on the streets in NYC....You know, the answer is not more guns.....right Mayor ?
    Ban them all .....it works in England why shouldn't it work here ?

    I have a friend who is NYPD.......scares me that he is armed in public.

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    May e they should pass a new law that police can only use 1 bullet magazines. Then maybe this will never happen again.

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    So, since NYC is so rabidly anti-guns I wonder if they're also anti-training as well, in practice?

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    Hopefully this incident has made the NYPD rethink their current firearm constraints and make a case to the higher-ups for support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxplosive View Post
    IMO...........Bloomberg should disarm the entire NY Police Dept. .... much like the Bobbies is London.
    No need for more guns on the streets in NYC....You know, the answer is not more guns.....right Mayor ?
    Ban them all .....it works in England why shouldn't it work here ?

    I have a friend who is NYPD.......scares me that he is armed in public.
    Good point! Why do the NYPD need guns? Aren't guns outlawed in NYC? That means no one has a gun, right? I mean, it is a law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingit View Post
    May e they should pass a new law that police can only use 1 bullet magazines. Then maybe this will never happen again.
    Then 16 of them would roll up on a scene, each firing one shot.
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    I watched the video of the incident over and over and it is quite apparent that the bad guy had completed his mission and was leaving the scene and with no intent to harm others. When the two officers arrived on scene they should not have attempted an engagement/apprehension in the congested area and their actions did place the bystanders at a high risk of being shot. The life of one innocent bystander is not an acceptable price to pay for the immediate apprehension of one bad guy. 16 rounds fired with only three hits on the bad guy, come on. The city taxpayers will now pay again and rightly so. Just my two cents worth.
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    Give em muzzleloaders?
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    "Nine bystanders, including 32-year-old Chenin Duclos, were hit by police bullets, ricochets and fragments when two officers fired at a man suspected of gunning down a former co-worker outside the Manhattan landmark."

    It would appear that the safest place to be in NYC is right in the police sights. 16 shots, 3 hit the perp, 9 hit bystanders.

    Maybe they should hire Andy Griffith as police chief since he never let Barney Fife carry a bullet in his gun

    EDIT: 16 shots! That means each officer had more than 7 bullets in his gun. Hizhonner, the Mayor is right, a 7 round limit would have reduced the number of people shot by 2. Living proof Hizhonner is onto something here.
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