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    If they were in a bunker, how did the authorities know the guy had a gun, and that the child was in danger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    If they were in a bunker, how did the authorities know the guy had a gun, and that the child was in danger?
    Well, the fact that he shot and killed a bus driver right before taking the child to his "bunker" is a pretty good clue that he had a gun. Now, as to how they knew the child was in "imminent danger," I can't say for certain, but I can make an educated guess that they were in contact with him and that he may have made verbal indications that he was going to harm the boy in the immediate future. Alternatively, there are many ways to gain surreptitious surveillance of a structure - especially when you're FBI HRT and have the military on hand as "technical advisers." It's very possible that they had some sort of eyes-on inside the bunker. It's also possible that the BG exposed all or part of himself to "normal" observation at some point.
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    I'm betting the had some sort of camera looking into the bunker
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    Glad the boy is ok. And one more bg is off the streets. And it proves that firearms do save lives and not just do evil things.

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    I'm glad that the boy is safe.

    This line in the linked story is the one that disturbs me.

    Neighbors and officials had described Dykes as a survivalist with "anti-government" views.

    The media seems to be rapidly turning that into an excuse to come and get you.
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    Sounds like they used an Explosive entry and it gave them the shock and awe they needed to to take him out before his brain processed the threat
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    That dirtbag got exactly what needed to happen to him.
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    I am sorry that this man went off the deep end. Sadly he had to "snap," kill someone, and take the young boy hostage. He had to die. I am glad it ended the way it did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixgun View Post
    Glad the boy is ok. And one more bg is off the streets. And it proves that firearms do save lives and not just do evil things.
    True, but in this case it only proves firearms can save lives when in governmental hands. I'm glad this event had a happy ending, but I would have much preferred to have heard that the family whose car he shot at took him out with return fire, or that the bus driver had successfully defended them all with his own gun. If so, it never would have had to come to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    Well, the fact that he shot and killed a bus driver right before taking the child to his "bunker" is a pretty good clue that he had a gun. Now, as to how they knew the child was in "imminent danger," I can't say for certain, but I can make an educated guess that they were in contact with him and that he may have made verbal indications that he was going to harm the boy in the immediate future. Alternatively, there are many ways to gain surreptitious surveillance of a structure - especially when you're FBI HRT and have the military on hand as "technical advisers." It's very possible that they had some sort of eyes-on inside the bunker. It's also possible that the BG exposed all or part of himself to "normal" observation at some point.
    I thought I read a few days ago that the pipe they were communicating through had a circumference of 4". Perhaps that alone allowed them to observe the guy and see him ready his gun - or pick it up - whatever he did.

    Hard to know - they're being very tight-lipped about the entry and it was stated somewhere tonight that the reason had to do with wanting to perhaps use the same techniques in future and similar situations. So they want to not publish how they did it. Makes sense (though I'd like to know more myself).

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    From what I read the neighbors heard a loud explosion then rifle fire. It would seem they either had manged to get c4 or the like rigged onto the door if it was that sturdy without him knowing or the door was weak enough they used the usual flash and crash entry using a flash bang.

    I have noticed that the media seems to be highlighting his anti government views somehow to the him being a murderer and kidnapper. Quite a leap to connect the two seems to me.

    Glad the boy is out safe. I was about to give up that he would shoot himself and the child.
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    Snapping is fine; off the deep end is fine. Just so long as you don't harm others in the process. This guy went over the line ... and got taken down for it. A big kudos to the folks involved in resolving the situation and helping to get the kid back alive.

    Hopefully the kid wasn't too abused. At minimum, he's going to have a rough thing to think about for the rest of his life.

    Proposed: that the kidnapper's "pelt" be staked to a tree and his head mounted on a pike as warning to others.


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    Even as the hostage situation continued Monday morning, plenty of police were on hand as schools in neighboring Ozark, Alabama, reopened for the first time since the incident began.

    Dale County schools remained closed but were to reopen on Tuesday, the district said.
    Strange, that a whole school district in the area and neighboring areas were shut down, despite it being only a lone idiot who was contained/cornered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Snapping is fine; off the deep end is fine. Just so long as you don't harm others in the process. This guy went over the line ... and got taken down for it. A big kudos to the folks involved in resolving the situation and helping to get the kid back alive.

    Hopefully the kid wasn't too abused. At minimum, he's going to have a rough thing to think about for the rest of his life.

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    Strange, that a whole school district in the area and neighboring areas were shut down, despite it being only a lone idiot who was contained/cornered.
    It seems odd, but it's one of those political things, and had a school NOT shut down (like the others do)...there'd be bad print in the local press.
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    The news is saying this morning that some kind of "hidden camera" was used. Maybe a fiber optic camera lowered down through the 4" pipe?

    I'm so happy that little boy got out alive. It was gut wrenching to hear that he was crying for his Mother. If anyone is going to need therapy after this incident, it's probably her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    I'm betting the had some sort of camera looking into the bunker
    You are right. That was reported today - how they got it in there so the killer wouldn't know it they were mute about. Report also said they had to go in from the top and down a stairs exposing their legs to possible shots and watching so rounds wouldn't ricochet - all this while throwing stun, flash grenades. Not easy that raid, least it sounds really tough to pull off.

    Hope somehow the boy didn't have to see the guy killed - horrible memory for anyone to live with.

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