Interesting article on death stats and Star Trek

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    Interesting article on death stats and Star Trek

    OK, I admit, I am a huge Trekkie/Trekker. But once you get past the Star Trek aspect of the article it is an interesting read on stats. Earlier someone posted something about crime stats in Australia after their gun ban. Just percentages and no data to support them. Well, back to Star Trek. Big joke is you do not want to be a Red shirt because they were the ones always getting killed. But, if you do the math they actually have a lower chance of getting killed than somone wearing command Gold or science/medical blue.

    It is a good wake up to folks that just throw number out there.

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    Surprise! 'Star Trek' gold shirts more deadly than red shirts | Crave - CNET
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    The point of the thread is about how folks percieve things by observation make assumptions without bothering to find the data. Also, when you have the data how it can be stated in different ways (deaths per group, deaths vs population etc..) Thought it was interesting that it was about Star Trek LOL. Funny thing is my sister sent me an intaractive Star Trek Quiz book yesterday.

    Here is a cool link to a thread I did about guns used in Star Trek movies and series:
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    The point of the thread is about how folks percieve things by observation make assumptions without bothering to find the data. Also, when you have the data how it can be stated in different ways (deaths per group, deaths vs population etc..)
    Yes, you're right. I'd never have believed it. It seems those guys always die in the first few minutes of the show. But now that I think about it, the gold and blue shirt guys definitely get into predicaments. Does it count in the statistics if they SEEM to die but aren't really dead, or if they're resurrected? Seems like that happens a fair bit. You're also right that data can be like silly putty; you can pull it around, smoosh it down on a newspaper and it'll pick up what's on that page. Hmmm, we may have something here: "The Silly Putty Theory of Polls and Statistics." Would that fall under the Theory of General Relativity do you think?

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    You have four guys "beaming" down to an unknown planet and beings.

    Spock.

    Bones

    Capt. Kirk

    Ensign Stevens


    Who is going to not be "beamed" back aboard alive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoGunn View Post
    You have four guys "beaming" down to an unknown planet and beings.

    Spock.

    Bones

    Capt. Kirk

    Ensign Stevens


    Who is going to not be "beamed" back aboard alive?
    See, that is like saying Chicago gun and homicide stats are the same as Glen, NH. The only thing you can say from observation is if you are on an away team with Cpt. Kirk you will be toast. It is not representative of the other COnstitution class Starships and their rates.
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    Some things I heard. If you are a TREKKIE you like wearing the outfits and going to conventions; if you are a TREKKER you enjoyed the series and movies but didn't get into the "nerd" part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    See, that is like saying Chicago gun and homicide stats are the same as Glen, NH. The only thing you can say from observation is if you are on an away team with Cpt. Kirk you will be toast. It is not representative of the other COnstitution class Starships and their rates.
    An away team with Cpt. Kirk? Turn in your ears. Kirk had landing parties. Picard had away teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcp1810 View Post
    An away team with Cpt. Kirk? Turn in your ears. Kirk had landing parties. Picard had away teams.
    Yes, I know that..thank you. But for our non trekkie friends oout there and the youngeer fols they might only know TNG..not TOS
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Back at my first assignment, the guys used to rush to the TV room after work to watch Trek on one channel, switch to another channel to catch another episode, then watch Uncle Walter tell all about the real world after that. Gotta admit I'm a closet-Trekkie.
    That sounds a lot like what I did after class at my first training assignment. I think I could catch three episodes on a good day. 1973 - what a world away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLASS3NH View Post
    AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh <deep sigh here> Yeoman Janis Rand..(Grace Lee Whitney) ...long blonde hair and her legs that went alll the way up.... man o man did I ever have a crush on her....
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