Britons 'could be microchipped like dogs in a decade' (already done in America)

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    tommorrow i get hand printed for the time clock they installed last week.
    have been carrying their chip implanted timecard /gate entrance badge for a couple of years .when it was announce we were going to the mag striped DL , i went down and paid the extra 20 dollars to renew my oldstyle drivers license .

    to much is to much and i intend to force them to pay me for clocking in and out . being it takes 30 seconds for each person and we have a 100 folks trying to leave at the same time. prob a lost cause ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    They can just scan your face for your uniquely different hot & cold capillary pattern areas which are as 100% individual as fingerprints.

    The technology is here already and ultra high security installations are using the system already.

    Even identical twins have radically different and uniquely individual face patterning.

    It's a security system that so far has proved to be impossible to disguise or defeat.
    Your distinct capillary pattern never changes from the time you're born until you croak.
    I had never heard of this before your post.
    I have a hard time believing that these capillary patterns don't fluctuate over time, or with various degrees of exertion or stress, or even facial expression.

    And I thought of one way that I would investigate trying to defeat the detectors: laser surgery.

    They currently use lasers to do things like remove tattoos... or "port wine stain" birthmarks! They use lasers in vein surgery all the time, don't they?

    I'd like to read more comments on this, and ways that the system could be stymied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    I realize were we are heading and working for the G'ment I have provided my fingerprints and DNA to get my DOJ clearence. I will stop at the chip, but I don't know if any of us can prevent facial rec. when it comes.
    You gonna give up your job when they demand it? Or will you grumble, sigh, and consent like I'm sure many were doing when they gave up the DNA sample.

    I remember stories of some Marines refusing to give a cheek swab when that came to be required. I wonder what ever became of them -- or of their resistance, at any rate.

    Gonna be funny to see what the government does about muslim women if they want to start controlling our comings and goings via facial recognition. They already had lawsuits when they told a muslim woman she couldn't have her driver's license photo taken with the face veil on!

    What if we all just said, "Screw it!" and started wearing masks every day? Would they outlaw that? What about those simple "Robin"-style eyemasks? Wouldn't that defeat the system?




    I just started reading the novel "Cell," by Stephen King.
    It's not as well-written as many of his others from years past, but it has an interesting premise. For gun owners: in the hardbound edition, check out the scene on pages 80-83! (The characters realize that MA's strict anti-gun laws have left them without a very useful tool!)

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    Peaceful, you have a point.
    With a house to pay for and a baby on the way, I would not quit without having another job first. My movements are tracked in our buliding via the ID I must wear at all times. I can take the ID off when I leave, which is a difference from the chip. I did not mind the DNA because of the nature of my work.

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    Now why did y'all have to go and ruin my day here, before I even STARTED my first cup of coffee?

    For shame.

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    I work with RFID (non human uses of course). Do not fear RFID. The range is laughably short. You have to subject it to a strong magnetic field to induce a current to make it transmit. To turn it on from a large distance would take so much power it would severely disrupt electric devices and electronics.

    Also, to destroy an RFID would require a device that could be built by almost anybody (without even taking it out!). A VHS eraser magnet could be used for most of them.

    Folks, these are not tracking devices in the Mission: Impossible sense. They require expensive detectors to be a few feet AT MOST from the chip. Instead of being afraid of the government tracking you (make no mistake, I'm for severly limiting governement access to my activities), be afraid of identity thieves tracking your information. The government already knows all about you.

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    Spectre:

    I thank you for restoring my ability to enjoyably ingest my java.

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    Wink Possibly A Bit Outdated

    But, I sort of still like the Human Bar Coding Method Best.


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    We could take a Sharpie and mees up the barcodes LOL. I think they will just use the GPS in our cell phones to keep track of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    We could take a Sharpie and mees up the barcodes LOL. I think they will just use the GPS in our cell phones to keep track of us.
    FRT is already in use in the general public.

    Tracking of cell phones is already done. Any cell phone built since 2000 is required by law to have the capability.

    Chipping is already happening as well. Some of the companies are "donating" the readers depending on the request. In Spain a nightclub allows patrons to pay for drinks via their chip. It may take a proximity reader to read chips as they exist today. An easy solution would be to integrate the scanning technology into road signs, traffic signals etc. Still better than FRT especially in rural areas.

    Can any of it be defeated, sure it can. Just takes money.

    Watch Gattica and Demolition Man. Somewhere is the truth of our future. Within the past few months they announced DNA scanning to predict health and longevity. Baby engineering has been a reality for several years. Insurance companies are putting the squeeze on unhealthy habits by raising the rates on people who engage in behaviors the insurance companies deem hazardous.

    Just a few degrees at a time. The water will eventually boil. Just remember it is all for your safety. Especially the safety of the children. To many Americans believe in a Constitutional right to be safe versus free. Big difference.
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    Thanks QK I just wet myself

    I use the handprint-palm scanner and the fingerprint scanner everyday. I'm just waiting for them to install the facial reconigtion. I just hope the cost will stop them.

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    I'm just waiting for my chip implant so I can access the Net from anywhere without a computer . . .
    Cheers,
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    There you go again, QK...just when I thought it was safe to go back to the break room.

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