And now it is time to play "Ask the Experts!"

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    And now it is time to play "Ask the Experts!"

    This week I was given a Winchester model 94 30.30 that was not well cared for. The guy bought it in 1976 along with one box of shells. When he gave it to me the first and only box of ammo he bought still had 20 rounds in it! The trouble is the last time he cared for or cleaned the gun was in 1976! During most of the years since ’76 the rifle was in a non-climate controlled storage room at his apartment. As you can see by the pictures there is quite a bit of rust. I want to get rid of the rust and redo the bluing. According to the guy that gave this to me it has never been fired. What advice can you give me on how to proceed? I purchased a Deluxe Perma Blue® Liquid Gun Blue & Tru-Oil® Gun Stock Finish Kit, but I am taking this slow and want advice. I have never had a gun in this bad of condition. I take care of my firearms. Any advice is greatly appreciated (except for any advice that calls for me to send it to you, that is lol)
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    If the ammo had 20 rounds left he or someone most likely did fire it.....

    As far as restoring it you might want to consider having it done professionally...
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    [QUOTE=Crowman;2712541]If the ammo had 20 rounds left he or someone most likely did fire it.....QUOTE]

    The 20 round box still has 20 rounds in it.

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    Welcome to the Forums here Joe. Truckers Keep America STRONG. Without all the CDL drivers driving freight from here to there and back again America would dry up and blow away. Especially with JIT...Just In Time deliveries made to most businesses.

    I think you need to ask yourself a couple major questions first. It's 36 years old and never been fired. Were it in better condition it would be worth a nice chunk of change IMO.

    I am not a firearms expert nor do I play one on TV. If it were an old truck or WWII tank I'd get it sand blasted. Then start what's referred to as a 'frame off restoration.

    TBT I wouldn't have the faintest idea as to how to begin. But I think you're in the right place...the asking questions place. There's plenty of folks here who do have the answers you seek. Seek them out Grasshopper...

    Another question is can you afford to shell out perhaps hundreds of dollars for the repairs that will be needed? If you can refinish or have it refinished do you plan to keep it? Shoot it?

    I've read a few times that older guns that have been refinished lost much of their value to collectors due to the refinshing. Something to think about.
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    I'd have it professionally refinished.
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    With the amount of cleaning and polishing that is going to need I recommend professional finishing as well, but be advised a lot of the rust will leave pitting that cannot be polished out.
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    It's barely collectable in 95% condition, your's is ~55%. Don't worry about a "restoration" but have the metal cleaned-up & refinished durably into "shooting" shape. Ignore the stock, it's fine. Then enjoy a accurate, reliable rifle that you'll never cry over with a scratch or ding. IMHO, make it slick, make it functional, stop the rust & then TRY TO WEAR IT OUT!
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    I'm not a gun restoration expert by any means, but when I need to clean up rust off something, I typically use a wire wheel and steel wool.
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    Well I have done my best! I discovered I am not really very good at re-bluing but the wood came out nice! When I tore the gun down to all parts removed I found no trace of burnt powder or any sign of old fouling so I tend to believe that it has never been fired, I will change that just as soon as I can. I did pull the bullet from one of the old rounds he gave me, drained the powder and just fired the primer to make sure that I have everything back together right. I think I am going to like this gun! I think I will let you guess which is before and which is after!

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    For restoration and to ensure safe function, get thee to a gunsmith with a good reputation in the community, post haste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckerJoe View Post
    Well I have done my best! I discovered I am not really very good at re-bluing but the wood came out nice! When I tore the gun down to all parts removed I found no trace of burnt powder or any sign of old fouling so I tend to believe that it has never been fired, I will change that just as soon as I can. I did pull the bullet from one of the old rounds he gave me, drained the powder and just fired the primer to make sure that I have everything back together right. I think I am going to like this gun! I think I will let you guess which is before and which is after!

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    Pics 4-6 are a substantial improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    Pics 4-6 are a substantial improvement.
    I would agree with that diagnosis....
    Firing a suppressed is on my Bucket List.

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