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    Police Roadblocks asking for DNA and Blood samples.

    Authorities say drivers in St. Clair and Bibb counties were stopped at roadblocks in the area and were asked to give DNA and blood samples as part of a study.

    Why the DNA if you just want to see how much blood and alcohol is in peoples systems, in this "voluntary" and "anonymous" survey?


    DNA, blood samples collected at Ala. roadblocks - WSFA.com: News Weather and Sports for Montgomery, AL.
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    This is one of the most chilling stories to come out lately. Just a few years ago, I would not have believed it. But now I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilowatt3 View Post
    This is one of the most chilling stories to come out lately. Just a few years ago, I would not have believed it. But now I do.
    So paying people for voluntarily giving samples is "chilling"? Why exactly is that?

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    There is nothing right about this. Off duty LE and FD people assiting in a study that is a partnership with a federal agencey and private entity.
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    Sure, its voluntary. But when somebody gets pulled over it would seem to me to be an intimidation factor. Oh, its anonymous. Yeah, sure.
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    $10 for a mouth swab, $50 for a blood sample...

    How much to insert the RFID chip to make it all work?

    This is appalling... I don't care if it was "voluntary" I don't care that the officials were "off duty"...

    I looked for other stories on this... this is what I found:

    Why were roadblocks in St. Clair and Bibb counties asking for blood and DNA samples this weekend? | al.com

    Pell City woman talks about participation in roadside saliva, blood sample survey | al.com

    Feds, state officials comment on St. Clair, Bibb mouth swabs, blood sample road blocks | al.com

    This is occurring at midnight? on a public road? With on duty deputies directing traffic? No... this is wrong... it's happening all over the country one article said.... Google news only finds "NTHSA samples " in Alabama...

    Probably really an "alien probe" of the "close encounters" kind... the aliens are disguising themselves as PO'lice... And "probing" more Alabamans..

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    If they are paying people for it, it's anonymous and it's voluntary why is LE involved? Why are people being stopped and asked for this? If everything is as innocent as they say, then it's not a big deal. But with all of the stuff that is going on with the IRS and NSA, I would be a little nervous about handing over DNA and blood samples. I would be especially nervous if it was at a police roadblock. It would be too easy for someone to record the license plates of those that gave samples.

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    Well I hope the State of Alabama from the governor on down is real proud of themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    So paying people for voluntarily giving samples is "chilling"? Why exactly is that?
    Because today its voluntary. Tomorrow it might not be.
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    I'm not the least bit alright with this process. It does smell of intimidation. Further, what will be done with the findings? Surely for every action there is an equal and opposite. Just because there is a payment involved, it doesn't justify the action. They'll pay you in the state of New York to rat on your neighbor for owning illegal firearms but that doesn't make it right. This is a slippery slope.

    I suppose allowing them to scrape spit off the sidewalk would be an appropriate response. Free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    So paying people for voluntarily giving samples is "chilling"? Why exactly is that?
    Okay, so... we have the state police set up a roadblock and everyone pulls over.. including you. One of the nice attendants, a volunteer, walks to your car and motions for you to roll down your window.

    "Sir, I don't know who you are, and I don't need to see your ID or anything... We are doing a national survey for the NDAA. Would you like to volunteer for the study? We will pay $50.00. "

    "What's the study for?"

    "It's a study for the DHS/DOJ NDAA, ve are payink $50 for participation in the study, Vould you participate?"

    "Um, sure, I guess. For Homeland Security, sure."

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    PT Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute."

    Perhaps they're more prevalent in Alabama..? Not to disparage our Alabama members, but this "nationwide survey" currently only shows up in Alabama news stories....


    And to answer the question... What's $50 to a government that can print all the money they want? Chilling? You betcha. Like running ice cubes down your spine... Enough to make you shudder.

    Don't forget, the government (our government, at least at many state levels, BTW), in it's benevolence was responsible for many Eugenics programs in the past... I'm sure some of the beneficiaries of those programs volunteered as well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stirling XD View Post
    If they are paying people for it, it's anonymous and it's voluntary why is LE involved? Why are people being stopped and asked for this? If everything is as innocent as they say, then it's not a big deal. But with all of the stuff that is going on with the IRS and NSA, I would be a little nervous about handing over DNA and blood samples. I would be especially nervous if it was at a police roadblock. It would be too easy for someone to record the license plates of those that gave samples.
    If it was a study it would be done in a lab not out on the roadsideSo they take samples and just let people go on their merry way with cash?Sounds smells looks and feels like an experiment to see how many people comply .
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    Is "Piss off" an appropriate reply to their request?
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    I'd offer a stool sample.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilowatt3 View Post
    This is one of the most chilling stories to come out lately. Just a few years ago, I would not have believed it. But now I do.
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    So paying people for voluntarily giving samples is "chilling"? Why exactly is that?
    Well, the 6 or 8 posts following yours cover it pretty well. What they don't address, though, is the even more chilling idea that there are people out there who don't find it "chilling."

    Obviously, the indoctrination in blind faith and obedience to Government is working.

    But back to your question:

    1) Drivers were arbitrarily stopped, without probable cause. This is done all the time, but that doesn't make it right (or legal, or Constitutional).

    2) Drivers were stopped by off-duty deputies. On-duty deputies don't have the authority to stop you without probable cause; Off-duty LEO's SURE as heck don't.

    3) The study was supported and funded by the National Highway Safety Administration. Being a Federal agency, the
    NHSA has NO authority to get involved in a study of drivers, unless those drivers happened to be crossing state lines. They also have no authority to be spending Federal tax dollars on such studies.

    4) The Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation, which ran the study, is a shill organization. They exist to drum up pseudo-scientific support for laws and public policy that encroach on personal freedoms, and to siphon tax dollars into liberal activist pockets. They are rabidly anti-gun, by the way.

    5) What in the flying heck does a DNA sample have to do with determining how many people are driving with drugs or alcohol in their system?

    6) Paying people to give up their Constitutional rights is one of the more insidious ways that the Statists work towards their ends. It works, and the 'beauty' of it all is that it's done with taxpayer money. The entire Social Welfare system is a perfect example, as are gun-"buyback" programs. Did you see the recent news report where the man-on-the-street reporter offered people a free iPhone if they just sign a document relinquishing their Constitutional rights? It worked, almost 100% IIRC.

    7) The data collection is supposed to be "anonymous." Lessee, they've got your photograph, videos, DNA and blood samples, and your license plate number. Anonymous???

    If you don't find this whole exercise "chilling", then you scare ME!
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