To be blunt, it should be.Getting a motorcycle license seems to be harder then CWP
Riding motorcycles, like driving a car, is a privilege, not an enumerated right.
This is a discussion on Getting a motorcycle license seems to be harder then CWP within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; So, I just went down and tried to get my motorcycle learners permit at my local DMV. After an hour wait and 1/2hr drive they ...
So, I just went down and tried to get my motorcycle learners permit at my local DMV. After an hour wait and 1/2hr drive they said my documentation was not sufficient. 1 proof of identity (birth cert), 1 proof of social security (SS card), and 2 proof of residency (CWP and vehicle registration).
So, I took a certified copy of my birth cert.(which had the signed thing saying "I certify.....") and my wallet size CWP (which was given to me by the sheriff). Both of which were not accepted. So now I am going to have to go down to my court house and get an original signed and sealed birth and go to the safe deposit box at my bank to find the full size CWP.
It didn't take this much paperwork to be able to carry my gun. Pretty soon we are going to have to submit to a blood draw, fingerprint screen, and dental record match to even get thru the door!
We are getting closer and closer to the mark of the beast folks. Bitching wont help, but dang if I don't feel like doing some.
Get used to it. It's not going to get any better.
Retired USAF E-8. Official forum curmudgeon.
Lighten up and enjoy life because:
Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid... Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth
But it is right that its harder to get a motorcycle license than to exercise your 2A rights. Keeping and bearing arms is an enumerated right. It should have no barriers whatsoever for the law-abiding. Driving and riding are considered to be privileges.
If we, as a people, want it to be considered a right, there's a process for amending the Constitution, and the overlords in the Capitol can be voted out. But it would take enough people waking up, realizing that they are being subjugated, and deciding to take a stand against it.
Perhaps I should have elaborated more in my first post, but that bell can't be un-rung.
What wonk decided to make this so ridiculous anyway? As the woman giving the statement before the IRS investigative committee said, "our government has forgotten itself". They work for US...not the other way around.
And illegal aliens are getting driver's licenses with no documentation. Go figure.
I'd rather be lucky than good any day
There's nothing that will change someone's moral outlook quicker than cash in large sums.
Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper.
Would it work? Maybe. Maybe not. But the system as-is sure isn't working for the OP, and the millions like him, or for those who are denied their 2A rights.
But I'm ranting without the aid of caffeine. Bad combination.
I could see it being hard to get a CDL, pilot, or something. But a motorcycle learners? I have already passed a driving test so I know the laws of the road. I have proven who I am time and time again to get the documents they want. And lets not forget they have my fingerprint on file with my current drivers license. Any LEO in the country could easily verify my credentials with less info. But all that is not what makes me mad. What concerns me is that they made me waste an entire evening over a photocopy. A government issue photocopy.... I will take back the exact same items, they were just printed on a different machine.
Maybe if all the documents were copies then I could see them thinking maybe I forged them. But this is a little much IMO.
From the wvdmv web site:
An original or certified copy of a United States-issued birth certificate (U.S. Department of State and U.S. Military birth certificates ARE acceptable, hospital birth certificates and Bureau of Census records are NOT acceptable)
She said mine was no good because the seal was not "palpable". Maybe she was having a bad day and I looked like an easy target? Seems funny to me I passed 2 desks before hers and they didn't say anything.
The MVA is full of government drones who absolutely don't give a flying walenda.
Even in the ridiculous cesspool that I live in you can get a learner's permit with only a valid DL.
Call before you haul. Lesson learned.
I wish I could get a job just pulling over motorcycle riders and cutting their license in half, maybe tazing them a few times just for laughs. Most of the ones I see are horrible drivers and could care less about their own safety, much less mine.