Green Technology Eating Crow...er, White-throated Needletail!

Green Technology Eating Crow...er, White-throated Needletail!

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    Cool Green Technology Eating Crow...er, White-throated Needletail!


    Birdwatchers flock to see rare bird, then watch it killed by wind turbine | Fox News

    Oh, the irony! Too bad we can't get more of these wind turbines on this side of the Pond to make our lives more energy efficient...at killing rare birds. Expecting a lawsuit in the near future...



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    We have our own allowed carnage here.

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    You should see the mass of windmills out in the Mohave Desert near, well, Mohave. At night the blinking red lights look like someone forgot to take down the mountain Xmas lights. And yes, birds do tend to fly into the blades, but only once.
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    The giant window over my family room has killed more birds than I ever have.
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    Given the frequency that birds seem to fly into buildings/windows/etc, I wonder how many birds die flying into the side of traditional power plants?
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    Birds may die flying into traditional power plants but traditional power plants aren't trying to pretend they're "Eco Friendly".

    I have nothing against windmills (wouldn't want one anywhere near me though because the constant "whoop whoop" sound they make could drive you insane after a few days) however, to say they are Eco friendly completely ignores the fact that they are killing birds at an enormous rate. So not too friendly for that section of the ecology.
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    I dont think that its anything a little paint in alternating colors on the blades wont fix. OR maybe the deer whistles that you put on your car on the end of the blades.
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    Reminds me of this story, though it's obviously more sad (in a frustrating kind of way)

    Shorter-winged swallows evolve around highways
    In survey along Nebraska roads, number of birds killed by cars has plummeted over 30 years
    Over the last 30 years, the number of cliff swallows killed along roads in southwestern Nebraska has plunged, and the birds’ average wing length has shrunk,
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    In the absence of roads, cliff swallows — sparrow-sized birds with orange rumps and white foreheads — tuck their nests under overhangs on cliff faces. But in the last few decades, many birds have traded ancestral homes for modern real estate — highway bridges and overpasses
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    And when Charles Brown measured preserved specimens’ wing lengths, he saw that, compared with the rest of the population, swallows that died on the road had wings that were a few millimeters longer.
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    He thinks the population’s shorter average wing lengths could help explain why roadkill numbers are going down.
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    I guess I'm blonde because I don't get the connection between longer wing spans, bridges and road death rate for Swallows.

    Seems that longer wing spans would mean less deaths because they have more flight power.
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    Flying into buildings kill well over 100 million birds per year, the top end could be close to 900 million. Wind turbines kill 33,000. Oil spills and power plant waste water pits kill up to 2 million birds per year. So the reality is that wind turbines are not really a very big killer.
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    When I lived in AK, the swallows would build nests under the front porches of base housing. You weren't allowed to knock down the nests once the eggs were laid and the birds all but ignored the homeowners going in and out. It was claimed they kept the mosquito population in check, but I never saw any indication anything kept it in check!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    I guess I'm blonde because I don't get the connection between longer wing spans, bridges and road death rate for Swallows.

    Seems that longer wing spans would mean less deaths because they have more flight power.
    I'm guessing that shorter wing lengths would enable more maneuverability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    I guess I'm blonde because I don't get the connection between longer wing spans, bridges and road death rate for Swallows.

    Seems that longer wing spans would mean less deaths because they have more flight power.
    Quote Originally Posted by linked article
    A few millimeters — about the width of a Tic Tac — might seem like a small change, but for birds’ wings, “a little bit can make a big difference,” says evolutionary biologist Ronald Mumme of Allegheny College in Meadville, Pa.

    Petite wings let birds take off quickly and maneuver deftly through the air. Like quail, which have short, rounded wings and can explode off the ground almost vertically, Brown says, swallows might be better served by short wings that help them whiz up and out of harm’s way.
    :) My intuition was that way too!
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