And the Trap Springs Shut!! Caught one!!!!!!!!
This is a discussion on Seventy-two killed resisting gun confiscation in Boston! within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Boston – National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed by elements of a Para-military extremist faction. Military ...
The rest of the story here:Boston – National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed by elements of a Para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.
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And the Trap Springs Shut!! Caught one!!!!!!!!
Well done! We may have come 237 years since then, but we really haven't made much progress. The question is - are we ready today to fight for our rights the same way our founding fathers and original patriots were?
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Cogito, ergo armatum sum. I think, therefore I am armed. (Don Mann, The Modern Day Gunslinger; the ultimate handgun training manual)
I hope that past,never becomes the present,and especially not in my neck of the woods
The thing that people need to understand that at that time they had no legal authority to own those firearms. At that time they were part of the British Empire and the laws were set in London. The reality is that the people were criminals at that time. But these incidents were also the reason the 2nd Amendment was written. To protect future US Citizens from the same thing happening.
All of these rights predate the Constitution by a far stretch, and will exist long after our republic withers away.
...Or as long as there is a humanity to whom they may apply. Call me an optimist.
Every human being has the same rights- including the rights of self defense, defense of family, and resisting tyranny. We just happen to be fortunate that in that the framers of our government had very recent and disagreeable experience with gross violations of their rights and decided to explicitly enumerate and preserve those rights as our basic foundation.
"Improvise, adapt, overcome."
"I'd rather die on my feet, then live on my knees."
Actually old west the right to keep and bear did exist before the constitution even in old english law.
So even though your opinon is that our founding fathers granted that right a simple google search will show you that isnt the case at all. Even Scotus at one point in 1875 ruled that the right to keep and bear arms was not dependent on 2A. That it simply existed and 2As only function was to limit the national governments power to interfere with it.
Creator or no creator, the right to keep and bear is as basic as right as the right to self defense and existed long before our Constitution did.
You dont have to believe a train is coming. Itll run over you anyway.
I know many people that believe that insurrection cannot happen in this country. I am sure that a lot of people the world over thought the same thing about their country, but yet it happens. I am not fooled for one minute by what the present administration has in it's anti gun agenda, coupled by all their blunders. I would not be surprised to find out that the progressives (party) are actually using Obama as a pawn. Certainly no POTUS in my brief stay on this planet has been so incompetent, and that includes Nixon.
Honestly, if you do not believe we are endowed by our creator with rights, or if you prefer we have rights by virtue of being fully sentient and thinking human beings with individual agency, as our founders believed and wrote prolifically about, including the "atheist" Jefferson (who attended church every Sunday, was a deacon, and prayed often), then you must believe they are simply an artificial construct created by men and resting on nothing but naked force. You don't absolutely have to have God, or a god; you can believe its self evident Natural Law, but once rights are a fungible concept that can change with the whims of the powerful, there is nothing to believe in, and certainly nothing worth dying for. If a government can grant it or take it away it simply cannot be a "right". As was eloquently pointed out, rights exist before, during, and absent government, and they ARE inalienable, in as much as no one can take them away unless you let them. There is always a choice, even if that choice leads to certain death.
The one thing I would have changed in that story was "extremists". Certainly apro pos for the times, but a more accurate word would be "traitors", because that is exactly and precisely what our founding fathers, the soldiers in the Revolutionary Army, and every Minuteman who resisted tyranny was in fact! They were traitors to their government and loyal servants to their creator, which is why more than 237 years later we hail them as heroes, and hold them as examples of our highest ideals and courage. Their rebellion against England, with all it's might and power, was as daunting as would be resisting tyranny in our time. We should not forget that, ever.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." C.S. Lewis
Amazon.com: The Founders' Second Amendment: Origins of the Right to Bear Arms [FOUNDERS 2ND AMENDMENT]: Books
The Unabridged Federalist Papers and Anti-Federalist Papers: John Jay, James Madison, Patrick Henry, Alexander Hamilton: 9781611042542: Amazon.com: Books
The Colonists were indeed "Subjects" of the King of England and as such suffered the same laws as the "Subjects" in Mother England! Now to quote from The Founding Father's 2nd Amendment, "Parliament had indeed, in the English Bill of Rights of 1689, declared certain "true, ancient and indubitable rights" including: "That the subjects which are Protestants, may have arms for their defense suitable to their Condition, and as allow by law."
Now if you study the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers you will find that this formed the basis of our Second Amendment!
Now if you weren't Protestant, then I guess you were out of luck!
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