One more (major) reason not to let it be known you have weapons

One more (major) reason not to let it be known you have weapons

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    One more (major) reason not to let it be known you have weapons

    THOMASVILLE, N.C. — Five teenagers have been arrested after deputies say they stole a safe and guns from a home in Thomasville.

    According to the Davidson County Sheriff’s Office, the victim told deputies he returned to his house on Club Drive around 1:30 a.m. on Thursday, July 29 after having been gone for less two hours to find his home had been broken into.

    Items stolen from the home included a safe and firearms worth more than $8,000, deputies said. With help from Thomasville police, deputies say they were able to recover most of the stolen property.

    On Tuesday, deputies arrested 18-year-old Evan Andrew Ayers of High Point along with three 16-year-olds and a 15-year-old in connection with the burglary.

    Ayers and the 16-year-olds are were all charged with a single count of felony second-degree burglary, one count of felony larceny of firearms and two counts of felony safecracking. The 15-year-old was served with a juvenile petition.

    Ayers is being held in the Davidson County Detention Center under a $200,000 secured bond. The 16-year-olds are each being held under $100,000 secured bonds.

    The suspects all have a court appearance set for Aug. 26.

    Further details about the burglary were not available.
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    Good point. Also another good reason to bolt your safe down to your floor and wall too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mprp View Post
    Good point. Also another good reason to bolt your safe down to your floor and wall too.
    Even with it weighing 1250 lbs empty, it is bolted to reinforced concrete. It also has an alarm sensor for anything over 5 degrees of motion/tilt......built from a Harley Davidson MC alarm sensor........... I'm very evil
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    My safe is bolted to the bottom of a lake, but I'm not gonna tell you which one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    Even with it weighing 1250 lbs empty, it is bolted to reinforced concrete. It also has an alarm sensor for anything over 5 degrees of motion/tilt......built from a Harley Davidson MC alarm sensor........... I'm very evil
    I sold a bank building that was built in 1918. The phase 1 came back with Mustard gas as a known hazard. The bank had constructed the safe with a tank of mustard gas that would fill the ante chamber of the main vault if anyone tried to drill the door. It cost about $20Gs to remove it. The technician said it had turned to some kind of poisonous, liquid sludge in the bottom of the tank, so it wouldn't have deployed, but was still deadly...

    They felt differently about robbers and thieves a back then.
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    A more secure safe could have prevented this. They would have had to break into the safe in the house if it was secured in the house better. At least they found the kids, I wonder how much "most" of the stolen property was, hope he got his guns back.

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    I know that "New" things are perceived to be better. I find it sort of strange that most of the modern gun "safes" are fire resistant, but not fire "axe" resistant and can be forced open with a 6' slate bar.
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    Even bigger better built safes can be busted into, and not as hard as people think. I think it should have an audio/voice message alarm, turned on by any simple 'motion' ....... "Alert... Alert... this safe is being tampered with and is set to explode in less than 1 minute and will result in death to all bystanders unless your security code is entered immediately...... time remaining.... 55 seconds, 54 seconds... 53 seconds .... " . AT 30 seconds, it should have another warning "To avoid serious injury or death, please leave the area immediately before detonation occurs...... 27 seconds..... 26 seconds... 25 seconds " .

    LOL. It would make them "think" , is someone really that crazy ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleks View Post
    Even bigger better built safes can be busted into, and not as hard as people think. I think it should have an audio/voice message alarm, turned on by any simple 'motion' ....... "Alert... Alert... this safe is being tampered with and is set to explode in less than 1 minute and will result in death to all bystanders unless your security code is entered immediately...... time remaining.... 55 seconds, 54 seconds... 53 seconds .... " . AT 30 seconds, it should have another warning "To avoid serious injury or death, please leave the area immediately before detonation occurs...... 27 seconds..... 26 seconds... 25 seconds " .

    LOL. It would make them "think" , is someone really that crazy ?
    Um, yeah. Some people are that crazy.

    Safes do not protect you from them being cracked. They protect you only for a rated time (fire or cracking them). The extra deterrents are icing on the cake. My goal is to get the idiots to move along quickly (E.G. drop everything and run) when it gets very loud and messy at my abode.

    The biggest problem with a safe is if the BG stays and then takes you hostage to open it. That is why a good layered alarm and physical defense plan is important.
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    Have a nice heavy safe like that, put some bricks in it along with a GPS system that will send a location as a text to your phone if it is opened or moved. Put your real safe behind some hidden panel. This way the police get the bad guys, and you keep your hardware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    Even with it weighing 1250 lbs empty, it is bolted to reinforced concrete. It also has an alarm sensor for anything over 5 degrees of motion/tilt......built from a Harley Davidson MC alarm sensor........... I'm very evil
    Now that's what I call secure. Thankfully I haven't arrived at the need to spend more than my guns are worth just to secure them. In fact my ammo is worth more than my four guns put together at today's prices. I'm trying not to be a jerk, because I know a lot of people on here started collecting guns years ago but I never did. Kinda wished I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squid86 View Post
    A more secure safe could have prevented this. They would have had to break into the safe in the house if it was secured in the house better. At least they found the kids, I wonder how much "most" of the stolen property was, hope he got his guns back.

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    Yeah....I'll thinking these kids probably had no other choice but to try to pawn them which got them caught.
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    Moved to Off Topic. Nothing here about armed self defense.
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    Doesn't say how they tracked the perps down. Am presuming the home had video, or they left fingerprints, or tried to hock the stuff somewhere in a small town.

    Have enough safe.
    Bolt it to the foundation.
    Have it in a tough spot to remove it from (if possible)
    Keep it a secret.
    Have a hardened perimeter.
    Have additional layers of security (security lighting, alarm, dogs).
    Realize the value of video recording, indoors and out.
    Have a good relationship with local LE.
    Push your congressmen to cease criminalizing booby-trapping the heck out of your property.
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    My safe is bolted to Jimmy Hoffa.

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