21st Century Civilian Conservation Corps Initiative

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    21st Century Civilian Conservation Corps Initiative

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    The mission of Civilian Conservation Corps Initiative,INC, is
    a 501(c)4 non-profit based in Florida, is to advocate for
    the re-establishment of the United States Civilian Conservation Corps(CCC)
    and other public sector work programs (eg.WPA,FWA)to enable our
    unemployed and underemployed citizens to be engaged in a practical
    peaceful community and national service.

    The purpose of this program is for the general benefit our community
    and nation. The CCC would aid in transforming our country toward becoming
    a resilient, sustainable and ecologically balanced culture.
    Programs like these would help this society to survive, thrive and
    prosper as much as we did in the 20th Century. Those who enroll in
    the CCC would receive job training in meaningful job skills and would be
    first responders in disaster relief.
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    My Father was in the CCC and the way he described it, it was brilliant.
    It was, however, a child of the depression. Taking poor kids out of their poverty tainted homes and communities, and sending them to rural areas to do infrastructure, work together, play together and earn money to send home to the family.
    Today's kids are very different and most of the urban ones have no interest in work or clean living.
    I would like to see the same program run the same way. But it's likely to be used as indoctrination in liberal thought etc, and government primacy instead of self reliance.
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    Not if it is run under the military code of justice like it was the last time. Plus I think that if you are on welfare then this should provide workfare
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    It could be a good idea, but I don't believe it will be run like it was last time even if run by the military. The pentagon is still calling the Fort Hood attack workplace violence.

    Remember all those "shovel ready" jobs that were financed by the stimulus. I am afraid we have very few real leaders in any government positions of power.
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    And that's the problem, we don't have anyone willing to lead and a public to ready to believe what the want to hear and not the truth.
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    The CCC played a major part in building this country's assets back in the '30s. (Think Hoover Dam) It could do it again but I don't know if the country would support it again.
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    Putting welfare recipients to work on public projects will never pass Congress because any type of welfare reform is political suicide and the politicians know this.

    The number of Americans on welfare and food stamps have swelled in the past 5 years to the point where they are now a huge voting block.

    When people figure out that they can vote themselves more money, they do exactly that.

    Putting them to work will cause a huge uproar.

    The CCC may have been popular back in 1933 when there was a strong worth ethic amongst the majority of Americans, but it won't fly with today's crowd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    Not if it is run under the military code of justice like it was the last time. Plus I think that if you are on welfare then this should provide workfare
    +1, I agree 100%!


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    Woody Guthrie traveled around America playing and writing music for some of the workers when the CCC was going strong. Woody was Arlo Guthrie's dad.
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    I believe that we need to re-instill a work ethic into a large segment of the population.

    There is a large sod farm here that has problems finding workers, they pay relatively well (starting at $10 an Hour and going to $12 after the first six months) for unskilled labor. The problem is that a lot of folks quit after the first week and some don't come back after the first day. It is too easy to get money doing nothing and why work hard for a little extra?

    We also have a problem that some people want to work but because a family member is sick or disabled they will lose their medicaid benefits if they make too much and any job that they can get doesn't have insurance or the insurance isn't that good.

    We can fix these problems, most Americans agree that these are problems that need to be fixed. The problem is that fixing them will require a change in the status quo and changing how we think and reassessing what we value. I do not buy the argument that it cannot be done or that it is too hard to do, I think that a lot of people like things the way that they are, and others do not want to put forth the effort to change them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    I believe that we need to re-instill a work ethic into a large segment of the population.

    There is a large sod farm here that has problems finding workers, they pay relatively well (starting at $10 an Hour and going to $12 after the fist six months) for unskilled labor. The problem is that a lot of folks quit after the first week and some don't come back after the first day. It is too easy to get money doing nothing and why work hard for a little extra?

    We also have a problem that some people want to work but because a family member is sick or disabled they will lose their medicaid benefits if they make too much and any job that they can get doesn't have insurance or the insurance isn't that good.

    We can fix these problems, most Americans agree that these are problems that need to be fixed. The problem is that fixing them will require a change in the status quo and changing how we think and reassessing what we value. I do not buy the argument that it cannot be done or that it is too hard to do, I think that a lot of people like things the way that they are, and others do not want to put forth the effort to change them.
    I agree totally. Unfortunately, our politcians think they they have to fix everything with one huge bill instead of focusing on one problem at a time. They end up screwing up things that work well and not fixing the things they can actually improve.
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