California College Forbids Passing Out Constitutions...On Constitution Day - Video

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    California College Forbids Passing Out Constitutions...On Constitution Day - Video

    Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE)
    MODESTO, Calif., September 19, 2013

    In a stunning illustration of the attitude taken towards free speech by too many colleges across the United States, Modesto Junior College in California told a student that he could not pass out copies of the United States Constitution outside the student center on September 17, 2013—Constitution Day. Captured on video, college police and administrators demanded that Robert Van Tuinen stop passing out Constitution pamphlets and told him that he would only be allowed to pass them out in the college’s tiny free speech zone, and only after scheduling it several days or weeks ahead of time.



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    Unbelievable! Well, not really...it is California after all. More and more colleges are just indoctrination centers, not places of learning. I'd be furious if I was spending my money to send my child to that "college".

    And what's with the tiny "free speech" zone? The entire campus should be a free speech zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    Unbelievable! Well, not really...it is California after all. More and more colleges are just indoctrination centers, not places of learning. I'd be furious if I was spending my money to send my child to that "college".

    And what's with the tiny "free speech" zone? The entire campus should be a free speech zone.
    The entire campus is a 'Free Speech Zone' so long as you are speaking positivly about Progressive Leftist/Socialist (redundant, I know) topics.
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    See, I look on the bright side... at least it's not just the 2nd Amendment they want to trample on. I would like to suggest that maybe the 3rd Amendment be trampled on a little and say that maybe soldiers can be quartered in your home without your consent on, say, Tuesdays. I mean all the rights afforded to you by the Constitution have limits, right? Some common sense quartering laws is what we need.
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    When I read the title my first thought was this had to have happened at Berkley (aka Bezerkley) I would have thought Modesto would be more conservative but then it is a college after all. Seems the indoctrination no longer ends at the high school anymore.
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    If they get their way they will probably be sent to reeducation camps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    When I read the title my first thought was this had to have happened at Berkley (aka Bezerkley) I would have thought Modesto would be more conservative but then it is a college after all. Seems the indoctrination no longer ends at the high school anymore.
    Modesto has become very Progressive and a La Raza strong hold......(many illegal migrant workers picking crops)............................. All of the middle-rich Progressives that really can't cut the emotional cord to CA, or could afford to buy big property in a crappy place and suffer a long commute, have moved there also (as opposed to OR, CO, WY......)

    Needless to say, the crime rate is high there, but goes under reported by the local PD and Sheriff (politics you know).
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    I'll bet that if this person had been handing out LGBT (or whatever it's called) literature or pamphlets to promote the Dream Act, nothing would have been said. 1984 was almost 30 years ago yet we seem to get closer and closer with each passing year.
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    the last Californian i saw with a copy of the constitution was totally passed out.
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    Free speech zones? You gotta be kidding me.
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    Yeah, this is why many of our firearm arguments fall on deaf ears.

    We say "Would it be constitutional to have free speech restricted to having to get a license and only do it privately in your home, never in public, and ban certain types? Because that's what you're doing to the second amendment. You'd never do that to the first."

    The answer is, pretty much..."Yeah, actually they would."

    There's too many people in this nation eager to be ruled.
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    And where is the ACLU? Absent as usual.
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    You gotta be freaking kidding me! Even my law prof (relatively liberal school, though in a conservative city. Go figure...) said that any school official, acting in any official capacity, is considered to be an agent of the government, and any attempt to prohibit political expression is a blatant violation of the 1st Amendment.

    See Tinker v Des Moines Independent School District, where SCOTUS determined:

    The court's 7 to 2 decision held that the First Amendment applied to public schools, and that administrators would have to demonstrate constitutionally valid reasons for any specific regulation of speech...
    The court observed, "It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate
    This guy sure has a doozy of a precedence on his side should he decide to push this...

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    And where is the ACLU? Absent as usual.
    Seems they forgot their history and are doomed to repeat it...

    https://www.aclu.org/free-speech/tin...93-us-503-1969

    Represented by the ACLU, the students and their families embarked on a four-year court battle that culminated in the landmark Supreme Court decision

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    Wow... Just wow... I truly wonder sometimes if America is over.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Badey View Post
    Wow... Just wow... I truly wonder sometimes if America is over.
    Only if we allow it to be.
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