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No More Trans Fat: FDA Banning the Artery-Clogger - ABC News
It seems the government is now banning trans fat. What do you guys think aboout this particular incident? I understand trans fat is unhealthy, but am i alone in thinking that someone else deciding what I can and can't eat is taking it too far. I know i'm preaching to the choir as far as banning things goes, but this story just took me off guard.
Trans-fat I don't know enough about as a true public health menace to make a judgement - I haven't eaten much of it the last few years, but on occasion I LIKE being Evil with a jelly doughnut. It should though be like cigarettes: they were never banned but education of the public, rules about where you could smoke (to limit second-hand smoke, dangerous as well) all helped to make many prefer to give them up. And trans-fat is not addicting, the extent of damage from it not known well, so I would say limit it's use by education and such like that. Banning it is a bit too Daddy-like for me.
Well OP after what a bunch of doctors told me 3 years ago about my arteries I would probably be a lot better off had the FDA got off it's sorry butt 30 years ago and banned it then.
When I was a lot younger I had faith in my government and the various agencies thereof. I began to wise up around 1991. Now I wouldn't trust them any farther than I could throw them. But that's just me. And FWIW the FDA is just a scam and a rackett the last say 20 years if not longer.
Since we are going to have the Government in the health care business how about them banning more stuff ( like bacon ) so the cost of them footing the bill is reduced . We are only starting down this road in New York it will be spreading like Butter over the nation .
Agreed. I think educating the people to dangerous things is great, but beyond that people have their own decisions to make. And as far as cigarettes go, there's concern with secondhand smoke as well effecting others. Theres also warning labels on packages that tell Joe Citizen what he's eating, assuming the labels are correct...Trans-fat I don't know enough about as a true public health menace to make a judgement - I haven't eaten much of it the last few years, but on occasion I LIKE being Evil with a jelly doughnut. It should though be like cigarettes: they were never banned but education of the public, rules about where you could smoke (to limit second-hand smoke, dangerous as well) all helped to make many prefer to give them up. And trans-fat is not addicting, the extent of damage from it not known well, so I would say limit it's use by education and such like that. Banning it is a bit too Daddy-like for me.
Ya know heroin addicts got methadone to get off the horse. Alcoholics got Shick Shadel Rehab and Alcoholics Anonymous.
NASCAR nuts can go buy and drive a Prius. Smokers got Jack Ship. And yeah I've tried quitting....we ain't gonna go down that road Mr Detective. But I'll tell ya what, it sounds for once (to me at least) like the FDA GOT IT RIGHT for once.
And b4 you ask me is my tin foil hat too tight Mr Detective...it's in the shop getting tuned up ROFLMAO
And b4 you ask I ain't had a drop for 2 days. I'm just a lil tired and sometimes when I'm worn out I get cranky. I kinda feel like I'm goin' thru a metamorphosis. The more I hear/read from Sister the closer I'm moving to her camp.
Well I'm almost outta ROCKSTAR in the white can (tastes like Bazooka Joe double bubble gum) so I'm off to see the wizard 4 sum more.
HAY Detective I spose you won't *Like* my posts no mo huh?
I guess since people tend to feed their kids what they themselves eat the danger to loved ones arguments of second hand smoke could be applied here as well.
I am in trouble then, since I am mostly composed of trans fats. Lol.
Next thing you know they'll be banning sugary soft drinks....oh wait, never mind. NYC already doing it.
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Here's my argument. I don't think the producers/suppliers of transfats have rigorously tested the safety of their product, or even contributed meaningfully to answering the question. They forced other people to test the safety of their product. They merely endeavoured to reap all of the benefit* and then foisted the consequences onto the uninformed. At some point, you become responsible (at least partially) for what you're trying to convince people to eat. Sure, it's not as egregious as Big Tobacco advertising to kids whilst obfuscating the association with cancer, so it's not nearly as clear-cut regarding culpability.
Now, I don't approve of the ban. Not at all. If there's a line at which Caveat Emptor is drawn, I think that it's clear enough where the blame lies. People know transfats are unhealthy. Or, they should.
*They failed. This is the nature of capitalism, trade results in perceived net benefit to both parties. And, on average, the perception is mostly correct.
Good, It is about time. Now maybe we can go back to deep fat frying with lard...
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other".
John Adams, October 11, 1798
Liberalism is unhealthy but they still allow that...
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
- Roy Batty
Of course, in a way that's true because obesity is a major health concern, but it will come at the expense of our freedom to live the way WE choose. Afterall...guns kill too. Come to think of it, cars that go over 55 mph are more likely to be in accidents. Manufacturing Petroleum products pollute the air. People break their legs while skiing. etc etc.
Educate people about their health and let them make the decisions. The government is there to protect the country against enemy invaders and provide an infrastructure, not to micromanage our lives.
Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in.- Mark Twain
I don't like trans fats. But if I eat healthy most of the time, I allow myself to eat naughty on occasion. The large soda ban in NY is not something we should accept and get used to because "they did if for our health - oh, wonderful government, looking out for us!" When they get to determine what is and isn't good for you, they control you. One ban turns into two, then three, the four, until we're so used to it we won't bat an eye anymore. If you don't rip up that kudzu plant by the roots, it's going to cover up anything and everything until it suffocates all.
I'm also not for continuing to allow products that are outright dangerous to our health to stay on the shelves. But who gets to determine what is dangerous? The gov't? Should we trust them?
A powerful lobby can have a load of influence. Their bad pet product can go through while others are banned. A gov't ban is no assurance that we are protected. It is up to us to be informed consumers. In 2006 the FDA made companies label their products that contained trans-fats. That helped people become more informed. Those companies have been steadily removing the trans-fats from their products since.
"Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa