Is it just me

Is it just me

This is a discussion on Is it just me within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Is it just me, or does it bother anyone else as well. I remember the day someone being hailed as a hero was for doing ...

Results 1 to 13 of 13
Like Tree25Likes
  • 7 Post By archer51
  • 3 Post By oldnfat
  • 2 Post By ghost tracker
  • 3 Post By OldVet
  • 2 Post By welder516
  • 2 Post By LimaCharlie
  • 1 Post By NONAME762
  • 1 Post By oldskeetshooter
  • 2 Post By BMcPhe44
  • 2 Post By molleur

Thread: Is it just me

  1. #1
    VIP Member
    Array archer51's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    VA
    Posts
    22,334

    Question Is it just me

    Is it just me, or does it bother anyone else as well. I remember the day someone being hailed as a hero was for doing something heroic. Now just doing your job makes you a hero. A good example are the words of Lt. Gen. Milley on the female MP at Ft Hood.

    “What she did was heroic,” Milley added. "She did her job and she did exactly what we’d expect from U.S. Army military police.”
    Alright General, did she do something heroic, or did she do her job?? If a finance specialist empties his own trash can, are they now a hero? Or what about the handicap person who holds a door for someone. Does that constitute a heroic act?

    Yes, if you run out in front of a car to rescue someone, risking your life doing so, that is a heroic act. Standing on the curb hollering "LOOK OUT!!" isn't. There was no risk to your own well being. But I guarantee you someone will call you a hero for doing it.

    I rinsed the sink here at the office, after someone poured out a cup of coffee in it. That was an act above and beyond my job description. Does that mean I'm a hero??

    Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but the overuse of word, takes away from the true acts of heroism that are done.
    Freedom doesn't come free. It is bought and paid for by the lives and blood of our men and women in uniform.

    USAF Retired
    NRA Life Member


  2. #2
    Distinguished Member
    Array oldnfat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    1,532
    I agree with you 100%. The word hero has lost it's true meaning. And that's a shame. My dictionary defines hero as "A hero (masculine) or heroine (feminine) refers to characters who, in the face of danger and adversity or from a position of weakness, display courage and the will for self-sacrifice".
    BenGoodLuck, archer51 and molleur like this.
    I shoot with a pistol and a Canon. We must all hang together amigos, or we will all hang separately. NRA life member.

  3. #3
    VIP Member Array ghost tracker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Ky Backwoods
    Posts
    5,130
    Agreed! Much like accurate, well-assembled profanity. When over-used & applied to any/every situation the words lose their value & weight. When "hero" is applied to a non-heroic deed, we are left WITHOUT a description for truly "above and beyond". Let's save SOMEthing that means someTHING! We've already reached the point where "famous" and "infamous" are... synonyms.
    welder516 and archer51 like this.
    There are only TWO kinds of people in this world; those who describe the world as filled with two kinds of people...and those who don't.

  4. #4
    VIP Member
    Array OldVet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Hiding inside a bottle of Jim Beam Black.
    Posts
    17,571
    I'm in your camp, archer51. And no doubt some slings and arrows will be aimed our way, but "hero" is definitely overused and misapplied.

    While I feel all service members deserve all the respect and appreciation I can muster, I can't bring myself to declare them--including myself--heroes for fulfilling their service obligations. We had duties of all natures to perform, and it was up to us to do so at our highest levels.

    Let's reserve the term "Hero" for those who act heroically--above and beyond the call of duty--generally losing their lives in doing so. If they survive, all the better.
    archer51, molleur and welder516 like this.
    Retired USAF E-8. Lighten up and enjoy life because:
    Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid... Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth

  5. #5
    VIP Member
    Array welder516's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    The Crab State if i could leave i would
    Posts
    3,728
    Hero is way over used .

    People can inspire
    People can be kind
    People can fight horrible illness
    But not everyone is a hero just because they had it tough . I would be very uncomfortable even if i saved someone to be called a hero , because some times you just have to do the right thing .
    archer51 and molleur like this.
    Member of the NRA
    {A}RMS discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property...Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them
    1775 Thomas Paine
    Not afraid to live & Not afraid to die .

  6. #6
    VIP Member Array LimaCharlie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    4,441
    Everyone on television news who does something good is a "hero". Everyone who does something bad is on the "most wanted" list.
    oldskeetshooter and molleur like this.
    I carry a gun, because a Cop is too heavy.

    U.S. Army, Retired
    NRA Patron Life Member.

  7. #7
    VIP Member Array Harryball's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Lansing Mi
    Posts
    7,712
    Archer you had me at Hero.....
    Don"t let stupid be your skill set....

    Never be ashamed of a scar. It simply means, that you were stronger than whatever tried to hurt you......

  8. #8
    VIP Member Array NONAME762's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    About 235M out of The Palouse WA
    Posts
    8,636
    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    I'm in your camp, archer51. And no doubt some slings and arrows will be aimed our way, but "hero" is definitely overused and misapplied.

    While I feel all service members deserve all the respect and appreciation I can muster, I can't bring myself to declare them--including myself--heroes for fulfilling their service obligations. We had duties of all natures to perform, and it was up to us to do so at our highest levels.

    Let's reserve the term "Hero" for those who act heroically--above and beyond the call of duty--generally losing their lives in doing so. If they survive, all the better.
    I'm with OV Welder and the OP here. It bothers me when I hear the word hero used as often as it is.
    welder516 likes this.
    I'm just a spoke in the wheel but not a big deal.
    America...a Constitutional Republic. NOT a democracy as the liberals would have us believe.
    Give me Liberty or give me BACON!!!
    You know that look women give you when they want some sugar? Me neither

  9. #9
    Distinguished Member
    Array oldskeetshooter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Georgia..South of the mountains, north of the sand flies.
    Posts
    1,708
    Give archer51 a trophy for telling it like it is.

    Give the others a trophy for showing up.....
    molleur likes this.
    A wise man once said: "Bugout bag?..What's that? Is that all the junk you sidewalk commandos plan on humping when the SHTF...I'll grab a Nylon 66, a box of 22s and a poncho liner and in less than a week I will have all of your stuff and everything else that I need for the duration."

  10. #10
    Member Array BMcPhe44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Texas South Plains
    Posts
    312
    Agree. Service is not heroism. I served but I am not a hero. Entering the fight, when you are sure you are going to die, to protect the freedom and lives of innocents is my definition of heroism. The soldier storming the beaches at Normandy, the Marines who continued the fight at Chosin, the LEO who puts him or herself between a maniac with a gun and an innocent or the Fireman who enters a burning building to save a child he doesn't know, those are my heroes. The rest of us are hopefully sheepdogs who when the wolves come may become heroes---but we never wish for that. From "On Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs"
    (From the book, On Combat, by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman)
    welder516 and molleur like this.
    "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
    - William Pitt

    {NRA Benefactor Member and proud supporter of the 2nd Amendment}

  11. #11
    Distinguished Member
    Array molleur's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    palm bay, florida
    Posts
    1,738
    Most real "Hero's" absolutely DO NOT perform a couragious act with that in mind. They react to a situation either out of fear or simply because it's the right thing to do. Yes, the term is overused and abused.
    welder516 and BenGoodLuck like this.
    "Don't shout for help at night, you may wake your neighbors"

  12. #12
    VIP Member Array BenGoodLuck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    3,522
    Words are definitely overused and used the wrong way, especially by the media. But in this case, I think the General was trying to convey that what the MP did, by performing her job, was heroic. We lose sight of the fact that our military personnel are often doing heroic things without us even being aware of them. And, yes, the guy who is doing trash removal in Afghanistan, or even in Texas, is also doing a heroic act. He is willing to sacrifice his life to defend our country, in whatever way the military commands him to do.

    In this case, the MP did her job, but it was still heroic, in that she was facing an armed killer who could have killed her. I'm sure she wan't thinking "I'll be a hero if I stop this guy...". She just did her job. As molleur said:

    Quote Originally Posted by molleur View Post
    Most real "Hero's" absolutely DO NOT perform a couragious act with that in mind. They react to a situation either out of fear or simply because it's the right thing to do...
    As Dwight Schrute of "The Office" puts it: "Don't call me a hero. Do you know who the real heroes are? The guys who wake up every morning and go into their normal jobs, and get a distress call from the Commissioner and take off their glasses and change into capes and fly around fighting crime. Those are the real heroes."
    Ben

    Cogito, ergo armatum sum. I think, therefore I am armed. (Don Mann, The Modern Day Gunslinger; the ultimate handgun training manual)


  13. #13
    VIP Member Array lionround's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Memphis
    Posts
    2,069
    Archer51 is my hero for bringing this up.
    If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?
    -- Steven Wright
    1950 Colt .38 Police Positive Special
    2013 SCCY 9mm CPX-2 Stainless Steel
    US Army 1973-1977, 95B

Sponsored Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •