Wilderness Survival ~ The Fire Piston

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    The FIRE PISTON

    One of QK's Hereto-for Little Known Wilderness Survival Secrets.
    Making a fire without a magnesium fire starter or even a Bic Butane Lighter or rubbing two sticks together.

    The Fire Piston works on the principle of compressing a small volume of air quickly which heats the air molecules up enough that they ignite the small piece of tinder to instantly create a glowing hot coal.

    It's an amazing principle.

    Once you get the hang of it then it's incredibly easy to do.

    I have gone into the deep woods and used only the Fire Piston. I did have a back~up fire source.

    Question:
    If the Fire Piston works So Well...then WHY did I even need a back~up fire source?
    Answer:
    Because I am not a dumb guy and there is always the possibility of the unexpected happening and with something as critical as the ability to produce fire...I don't leave things up to fate and chance.
    I've never needed to use my back~up Bics or MagnesiumFS though...if that counts for anything.


    This was almost forgotten fire starting technology until it was fairly recently revived back into the general human knowledge base.

    I was going to take digital photos but, then decided to Google Search "Fire Piston" (in quotes) AND (Low & Behold) I actually found a site COMPLETE with a Demonstration Video.

    START A FIRE!...IT'S AS EASY AS CLICKING HERE. CLICK HERE.

    And Doggone-it if somebody isn't selling them on Ebay also.
    Wonder of wonders.

    Watch the video of the above link.....wow!
    That's the way it works!

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    60 and 85 Dollars!!!! I think I will just make sure I have a Bic lighter on me, plus a backup Neat gadget for the serious hiker though!!
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    Years ago a guy that was a machinist for Westinghouse made me one.
    They are a bit cheaper on Ebay.

    A hobbycrafter with a home lathe could make you one for a LOT less $$$.
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    Well that's pretty slick, QKShooter...
    It took even less time than setting the front grip of an AK-47 on fire...

    What do you use for tinder?
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    I think I'll stick to my cat-food tin alcohol stove and a collection of bics. They weigh less, won't break, and cost 1/85 as much.

    Its a neat idea, though!!!
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    I like my magnesium fire starter better, shave some metal on any tinder, strike a spark and bang you have several thousand degrees of instant white hot heat that will dry the tinder and start a fire.
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    magnesium fire starters are great...cheaper too but, I like the survival cool factor of the fire piston.

    I usually use little balls of a material called Kapok as my first combustible...but, lots of stuff in found nature works just fine as long as it's fine and dry.

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    Nice and simple idea tho - and at very least another option for the emergency pack.

    Once it warms up guess what my old lathe is gonna brew up
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    I Love Camping...

    Although the FireStarter looks very unique...for $60 I'll stick to my 'self-start' propane torch. I can start 3 - 5" pine logs with that sucker...

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    I love it. That is cool. I dig primitive.
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    Oh that's right P95Carry is a lathe guy...Hey Chris...work the bugs out & then maybe take a few orders?

    I'll buy another one for something much less than $60.00
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    I have a wood turning lathe but was thinking here of making something out of heat treated aluminum - so metal lathe job.

    Hard to get cost down if truth known because anything I make on the old machine is hands on - and prime concern here is a clearance of maybe just a thou on the piston element - to get a good or adequate seal.

    That means close tolerance turning of both bore and piston - plus probably polishing to finish. All that spells time and time costs!! If I had CNC I could bash em out after programing!

    I think I will try one tho eventually - as long as I have enough metal stock on hand.
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    Would the Aluminum (AKA metal) wick away the necessary heat of the compression?

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    I think if the compression stroke real quick like in the video and the end ''cup'' with tinder quickly accessed and used, I doubt the thermal conductivity would matter too much - valid point tho.
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    Shoot...now I'm going to have to make one.

    I wonder about the clearance on the wood though. It would seem to me that repeated use would open up the clearances...escpecially being wood it would seem to wear out pretty quickly.
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