The Cost of Illegals
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So often, we get caught up ...
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May 20th, 2007 11:05 AM
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The Cost of Illegals
Check out these figures. Has the U.S. gone mad or is it just the people who are running it....
So often, we get caught up in a debate over political semantics and end up ignoring the hard-shell realities of what we're talking about. According to mmigrationCounters.com, here are some of the realities that the Flake-Gutierrez Bill would airbrush out of the picture:
Number of Illegal Aliens in theCountry 20,807,645
Money Wired to Mexico City since January, 2006 $ 22,213,001,672.00
Cost of Social Security Services for Illegal Aliens since 1996 $397,450,739,563.00
Number of Children of Illegal Aliens in Public Schools 3,958,789
Cost of Illegal Aliens in K-12 Since 1996: $ 13, 965,063,431.00
Number of Illegal Aliens Incarcerated 332,594
Cost of Incarcerations Since 2001 $ 1,398,127,429.00
Number of Illegal Aliens Fugitives 642,799
Skilled Jobs Taken by Illegal Aliens 9,872,838
Figures can trick your eyes. Take particular note that items 2,3,5, and 7 reflect BILLIONS not millions of dollars -- and that item 3 exceeds one-third of a TRILLION dollars
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Can you imagine how much it will cost taxpayers if we triple the number of Illegals entering this country!!
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Personally, Im having a hard time figureing out why an ILLEGAL alien is entiteled to Social Security benefits that they have never paid into.
And if we know that they are fugtives, why are they still here ?
If I was a betting man, it would seem to me that somebody in this great government of ours is very interested in keeping things as they are...and the wishes of the people that live here just dont matter.
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May 20th, 2007 11:05 AM
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May 20th, 2007 04:44 PM
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Just the cost of illegals giving birth in Parkland Hospital in DFW is 100's of millions!
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May 20th, 2007 05:01 PM
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Here's a good one awhile back a guy wins the state lottery, come to find out he's a illegal alien who had been deported before. He was working at a big company not a second class job. He still got the money, not invalid because he should not have been here anyway. And what's with the marches about illegals rights when they aren't entitled to more than anyone that's in jail and only as long as it takes to send them home. I'm not against people coming to this country, but when it is where it's not controlled and most get better services than I do. Somethings wrong with this picture.
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May 20th, 2007 06:45 PM
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Add the fact that it's legal for illegals to own property, businesses and homes in America.
Add the fact that many Mexican children walk across the border to go to American schools (at no charge to them).It's illegal to ask them if their illegal.
The list is endless... freebie's, freebie's, freebie's for the illegals. What do we get? The bills for those freebie's.
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May 20th, 2007 07:45 PM
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Ok, here is my question. An illegal was driving with no drivers license in Palm Beach County, and hit and killed a motorcycle LEO. Now, aside from the question of who was at fault, what I don't understand is this: The authorities now have an illegal who has clearly violated our laws. Why is the world is she not immediately deported? And, by the way, she was not.
Can someone give me an answer to this that makes any sense.
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May 20th, 2007 08:47 PM
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Here's a start:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...American+Union
It doesn't matter what the short-term effects are. Nor does it matter what kind of divergence it causes from our here-to-fore way of life in the USA. Its what the powers that be want to see happen. Only way to possibly change course is to comepletely change leadership.
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May 20th, 2007 08:55 PM
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Can someone give me an answer to this that makes any sense.
I cannot Ron - I see little ''sense'' in so much around this whole subject
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May 20th, 2007 08:58 PM
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We Know what it does, but what can we do about it?
Time for US Citizens to stand up and be counted. Our elected officials are preparing to pass reforms to allow illegals to become legal. What can we do about it, who do we contact to make our wishes known. The insanity must stop, but it's up to us. We can stop the madness, I'm sick of seeing the mexican flag flying in parades where illegal border hoppers demand rights and freedoms and continue to take our country down the sh&t-hole......
Time for Americans to organize and do what needs to be done.
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May 20th, 2007 11:35 PM
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I've been to several other countries, and in all if you break the law you go to jail. I guarantee that you do not get any rights advocates unless you have the money to get someone. People in the countries I have been to have been great to me. But I treat them as I'd like to be treated and let them know I'm visiting and don't think I'm better than them. I don't expect to hear English from everyone that works, and I don't expect to see a lot of signs in English. You'll be surprised at how much of another language and culture you'll pick up by going out and about. But I don't expect them to make it a law that they should have to learn English and post signs for me either. I can visit and stay in these countries as long as I can pay my way. Most countries require you to have a return ticket before they allow you in. I understand that the majority of the people that want to come here are looking for a better life. And the only thing that gets to me is that after they get here illegibly there are services that step in and hinder the laws to deport them. Now suddenly there is all kinds of social services to provide legal, medical, and all types of assistance. I was laid off many years ago with a new born baby. Guess what we were told? I'd made too much money the year before to qualify for ANYTHING. It kinda tells something about a place that protrols borders to keep people in and a place that protrols borders to keep people out to keep from being over run. As screwed up as some of the things here are, just go to several other places to see and compare.
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May 20th, 2007 11:35 PM
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Got a link to those figures? I'm curious and want to read it.
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May 21st, 2007 04:12 AM
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Our Politicians Are Selling Us Down The Road...
Slowly...but surely...
If this recent bill passes...we are ALL screwed..."W" has greatly disappointed me.

Stay armed...stay safe!
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May 21st, 2007 12:10 PM
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I'll wait till they all move here then retire to mexico.
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May 21st, 2007 04:20 PM
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I guess we now know how the Native Americans felt when the Europeans invaded this continent 400 years ago.
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May 21st, 2007 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I guess we now know how the Native Americans felt when the Europeans invaded this continent 400 years ago.
...as the same with anything from the past. We can't change history, but we can, perhaps, try to be a little smarter with the future!
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May 21st, 2007 10:29 PM
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The cost to the taxpayers is an economic crime.
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