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    Im a big fan of the Michael Savage Radio show, and today he had a guest on discussing Documented Proof that Interment Camps for Americans are being built IN America.
    Pretty damn scary if you think about.

    Id like to add this. If these "camps" were intended to detain Criminals and/or terrorists. Why would it be such a secret? After all, the American public would be all for that.

    Now it says that "If a National Emergency" is declared. But that's a VERY broad term. A Hurricane or a snow storm could be considered one. And why would they need to Take Over peoples private businesses? (like gun stores)

    And its very clear that the government isn't going to lock up Illegal Aliens coming across the border. Hell, it would be cheaper than $385 MILLION dollars to just build a proper armed guarded wall along the Mex/American border.

    Plus, it would be Political suicide, and none of the politicians in office would to anything to loose the "Minority Vote"

    Heres the story:
    http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55923.

    Houston-based KBR, formerly the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton Co., has a contingency contract in place with the Department of Homeland Security to construct detention facilities in the event of a national emergency.

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, spokeswoman Jamie Zuieback confirmed yesterday in a telephone interview that the KBR contract for $385 million was awarded initially in January 2006 for a one-year base period with four one-year options. It has been extended into 2007. KBR held a previous emergency detention contract with ICE from 2000 to 2005.(Link for the Contract:http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Stor...1315C0A0%7D%B6)

    Zuieback told this writer the primary intent of the KBR contract was to build temporary detention facilities that could be used in the event of a mass migration across the border that required ICE to respond on a quick basis to an illegal-immigration crisis.

    "The idea of the KBR contract is to support the Army Corp of Engineers," Zuieback explained, "in case we experienced a sudden mass immigration and we had to respond quickly. We would need immediate detention facilities in the form of temporary housing that would enable us to determine if the large numbers of illegal immigrants were political or economically motivated, or if they were criminals or terrorists."

    Zuieback confirmed that the KBR contract for detention facilities could apply to national emergencies, including natural disasters.

    Several times, Zuieback insisted in the telephone interview that the KBR contract was a "contingency contract," specifying that detention facilities were to be built only when an immigration emergency or a national emergency, including a natural disaster, had been declared.

    Heather Browne, spokeswoman for KBR, also sent me an e-mail yesterday confirming KBR built a temporary facility in New Orleans that provided cantonment for up to 500 federal detention officers who were tasked with maintaining law and order during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

    Last week, WND reported President Bush had signed May 9 a little-reported National Security and Homeland Security Directive (NSPD-51 and NSPD-20) that granted extraordinary powers to the president in the event of a declared national emergency, apparently without congressional approval or oversight.

    NSPD-51/HSPD-20, published on the White House website, rescinds Presidential Decision Directive 67 signed by Bill Clinton Oct. 21, 1998, and establishes a new White House office of the National Continuity Coordinator, a position now occupied by Frances Fragos Townsend, the assistant to the president for Homeland Security and Terrorism.

    The new directive concentrates an unprecedented amount of emergency authority in the office of the president, specifying that the president now has the authority to direct "National Essential Functions" of all federal state, local, territorial and tribal governments, as well as private sector organizations in the event of a national emergency.

    The directive loosely defines "catastrophic emergency" as "any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions."

    The KBR contingency contract appears to give ICE the ability to have detention facilities constructed under the president's direction in response to a national emergency as declared under NSPD-51/HSPD-20.

    The initial White House press release announcing the presidential directive included no background explanation of the directive or statement by the president. The press release merely posted NSPD-51/HSPD-20 on the White House website.

    Sections 23 and 24 of NSPD-51/HSPD-20 specify that Annex A and the classified Continuity Annexes are incorporated into the directive, even though they remain secret and are not available for examination as part of the published document.

    Still, Zuieback said she was not familiar with NSPD-51/HSPD-20. At her request, this writer e-mailed to her the White House website link to the directive posting.

    The White House declined comment on the initial WND story and has not yet responded to the story
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig229 View Post
    Im a big fan of the Michael Savage Radio show, and today he had a guest on discussing Documented Proof that Interment Camps for Americans are being built IN America.
    Pretty damn scary if you think about.

    Id like to add this. If these "camps" were intended to detain Criminals and/or terrorists. Why would it be such a secret? After all, the American public would be all for that.
    ...actually they probably wouldn't. A lot actually. Think about how many times we hear them screaming bloody murder on the news about such and such BG not deserving to die at the hands of a GG or how many we let out of prison now. Gitmo anyone?
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    Why wouldn't they be secret?

    It's not like they would be a new thing. We had dozens during WWII, and moved most of the Japanese off the West Coast. Probably 80% of the US population STILL doesn't know they existed!!
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    Looks to me like the author is trying to over sensationalize the amount of emergency authority the president has during a national emergency by reporting this as some type of potential dehumanizing legislative act. The article reads as a "contingency" and appears it is not an underway construction project. Actually "temporary housing" sounds like a good idea to me in the event of any crisis.
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    This story falls in line with stories on secret plans for the President to assume dictatorial power. Every President, beginning with G. Washington, has been accused of the same. Then there are the stories of the military getting ready to take over, a la "Seven Days in May" -- great movie, by the way. Then it's corporations, then the church, then the media. It's great fodder for the fringe on talk radio.
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    Maybe they plan on locking up those of Italian or German descent this time. No one in the White House or the US Congress has the political will to lock up any large number of real domestic terrorists, especially Islamic ones.

    BTW, The ACLU is suing an airline that is alleged to have transported suspected Islamic terrorists.

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    Whats to stop them? They did it 100 years ago, all they have to do is Lie to everyone about the reason, intere the people and deal with the aftermath later. Who will stop the government? Not the people, most are to scared to be noticed because they might be next.

    These arn't being set up for Bush's Govt. they are prepareing for "Queen Clinton".

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    Quote Originally Posted by raevan View Post
    These arn't being set up for Bush's Govt. they are prepareing for "Queen Clinton".
    Nice of the Bush administration to take care of this for her. Maybe we'll just skip the elections altogether. The "shadow government" strikes again!
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    2 Knoxville college kids, kidnapped, raped, tortured, mutilated and killed by 5 African Americans. Not a "hate-crime".

    Churches may lose tax exempt status for taking a political stance, and talk-radio stations may be required to give "equal time to opposing views" or lose their licenses, under proposed legislation.

    Mr. Bush will not build any physical barrier on the southern border, but will construct "internment camps", for use under, demonstrably, the most ambiguous definition of "State of Emergency" historically made.

    Homosexual curricula are actively supported by the NEA, but abstinenece/Christian moral structures are
    (respectively)"intolerant" and "hate-speech".

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    "Interment" means "burial".

    Are you sure you don't mean "internment"?


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    I will be six feet under before I submit and go to one of those camps.

    God help the law enforcement or military forces souls that agree to enforce such enslavement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob72 View Post
    2 Knoxville college kids, kidnapped, raped, tortured, mutilated and killed by 5 African Americans. Not a "hate-crime".

    Churches may lose tax exempt status for taking a political stance, and talk-radio stations may be required to give "equal time to opposing views" or lose their licenses, under proposed legislation.

    Mr. Bush will not build any physical barrier on the southern border, but will construct "internment camps", for use under, demonstrably, the most ambiguous definition of "State of Emergency" historically made.

    Homosexual curricula are actively supported by the NEA, but abstinenece/Christian moral structures are
    (respectively)"intolerant" and "hate-speech".

    If you can't follow social trending, pick up a book on German history, immediately following the Beer Hall Putsch.
    Ri-ight. The poor, downtrodden, oppressed white folks, Christians, and heterosexuals. Sheesh.
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    "Interment" means "burial".

    Are you sure you don't mean "internment"?
    I don't know. To listen to the conspiracy theorists, "burial" is probably the real intention of the sinister secret agencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob72 View Post
    2 Knoxville college kids, kidnapped, raped, tortured, mutilated and killed by 5 African Americans. Not a "hate-crime"...
    Rob,

    As a bit of a factoid crimes designated as a 'Hate crime' are extremely rare.

    I was reading like 2 or 3 weeks ago a report that had stated Hate Crime prosecutions numbered IIRC at less than 2% current.
    Unfortunately I cannot find that specific reference to confirm my memory. I did though find the following report via the US DoJ Bureau of Statistics which is aged by a decade but pretty much supports same...

    ADVANCE FOR RELEASE AT 4:30 P.M. EDT BJS
    Sunday, September 23, 2001 202/307-0784
    JUSTICE DEPARTMENT RELEASES 1997 TO 1999 HATE CRIME STATISTICS

    WASHINGTON, D.C. – Almost 3,000 of the approximately 5.4 million criminal victimizations reported to police from 1997 through 1999 in more than a dozen states were considered to be hate crimes, according to a new study published today by the Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS). Hate crimes, or bias-motivated crimes, are defined as offenses motivated by hatred against a victim based on his or her race, religion, sexual orientation, handicap, ethnicity or national origin.

    Of the 2,976 incidents police departments reported to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS) for those three years that were attributed to hatred, 1,820 were attributed to racial bias (61 percent), 431 to religious bigotry (14 percent), 379 to sexual orientation (13 percent), 329 to ethnicity (11 percent) and 17 to physical or mental disabilities (less than 1 percent).

    In 60 percent of the hate crime incidents the most serious offense was a violent crime – most commonly intimidation or simple assault. Aggravated assault was the most serious offense reported in 13 percent of the incidents. In almost 40 percent of the incidents the most serious offense was a property crime, 73 percent of which was damage, destruction or vandalism.

    Among racially-motivated bias incidents, 6 in 10 targeted blacks, 3 in 10 targeted whites, and the remainder targeted Asians or American Indians. In incidents involving religious bias, 41 percent targeted Jewish victims and 31 percent targeted unspecified religious groups.

    More than half of violent hate crime victims were 24 years old or younger and almost a third were younger than age 18. Hate crime offenders also tended to be younger. Thirty-one percent of violent hate crime offenders, and 46 percent of property offenders were under 18 years old.

    Thirty-two percent of the reported hate crimes occurred in a residence, 28 percent in an open space, 19 percent in a retail or other commercial establishment or building, 12 percent at a school or college and 3 percent in a church, synagogue or temple.

    Hate crimes were committed mostly against one or more individuals (84 percent), as opposed to business or financial institutions (6 percent), governments (4 percent), religious organizations (2 percent) or society or the general public (2 percent).

    Of the 2,204 persons who were violent hate crime victims, 3 were murdered, 4 abducted or kidnaped, 17 sexually assaulted, 42 robbed and 2,138 assaulted (504 aggravated, 815 simple and 819 intimidated).

    On July 1, 2000, BJS added new questions to its National Crime Victimization Survey to uncover hate crimes that go unreported to law enforcement agencies. Preliminary data from the first six months of this data indicate that the majority of hate crimes are not reported to police, as is true of crimes in general.

    The Hate Crime Statistics Act of 1990 (P.L. 101-275) requires the collection and analysis of data on reported hate crimes. The FBI, in partnership with local law enforcement agencies, began the collection of such incidents and published annual reports as part of the Uniform Crime Reporting Program. In recent years, many law enforcement agencies have begun to report hate crime data through NIBRS, which is a more detailed reporting system with the ability to capture a wide range of information on specific incidents. In 1999, 3,396 agencies from 17 states representing 13 percent of the U.S. population submitted NIBRS data to the FBI.

    The special report, "Hate Crimes Reported in NIBRS, 1997-99" (NCJ-186765), was written by BJS statistician Kevin J. Strom. Single copies may be obtained by calling the BJS clearinghouse number: 1-800-851-3420. Fax orders for mail delivery to 410/792-4358. After the release date the data will be available at:

    After the release date these materials will be available at:

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/hcrn99.htm

    The BJS Internet site is:

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/

    Additional criminal justice materials can be obtained from the Office of Justice Programs homepage at:

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov

    # # #

    BJS01193
    E-mail: stu@ojp.usdoj.gov
    After hours contact: Stu Smith at 301/983-9354

    Source - http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/press/hcrn99pr.htm
    Following the above cited numbers the total amount of Hate Crimes during the stated time frame was 2,976 or 5.5% of crime overall.
    Of that just 1,820 or 3.3% were attributed to "racial bias" itself making up 61% of Hate Crimes overall.
    Commonly folks speak of hate crime but as based on reports from police and state prosecutors the actual incidents of as much are far less than people assume/imagine regardless of race, ethincity, or sexual orientation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodc13 View Post
    I don't know. To listen to the conspiracy theorists, "burial" is probably the real intention of the sinister secret agencies.
    Good point, Rod. You might have something there.


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