CINCO DE MAYO ~ Learn Something!
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May 5th, 2005 07:58 AM
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CINCO DE MAYO ~ Learn Something!
The 5th of May is not Mexican Independence Day, but it should be! And Cinco de Mayo is not an American holiday, but it should be. Mexico declared its independence from mother Spain on midnight, the 15th of September, 1810. And it took 11 years before the first Spanish soldiers were told and forced to leave Mexico.
So, why Cinco de Mayo? And why should Americans savor this day as well? Because 4,000 Mexican soldiers smashed the French and traitor Mexican army of 8,000 at Puebla, Mexico, 100 miles east of Mexico City on the morning of May 5, 1862.
The French had landed in Mexico (along with Spanish and English troops) five months earlier on the pretext of collecting Mexican debts from the newly elected government of democratic President (and Indian) Benito Juarez. The English and Spanish quickly made deals and left. The French, however, had different ideas.
Under Emperor Napoleon III, who detested the United States, the French came to stay. They brought a Hapsburg prince with them to rule the new Mexican empire. His name was Maximilian; his wife, Carolota. Napoleon's French Army had not been defeated in 50 years, and it invaded Mexico with the finest modern equipment and with a newly reconstituted Foreign Legion. The French were not afraid of anyone, especially since the United States was embroiled in its own Civil War.
The French Army left the port of Vera Cruz to attack Mexico City to the west, as the French assumed that the Mexicans would give up should their capital fall to the enemy -- as European countries traditionally did.
Under the command of Texas-born General Zaragosa, (and the cavalry under the command of Colonel Porfirio Diaz, later to be Mexico's president and dictator), the Mexicans awaited. Brightly dressed French Dragoons led the enemy columns. The Mexican Army was less stylish.
General Zaragosa ordered Colonel Diaz to take his cavalry, the best in the world, out to the French flanks. In response, the French did a most stupid thing; they sent their cavalry off to chase Diaz and his men, who proceeded to butcher them. The remaining French infantrymen charged the Mexican defenders through sloppy mud from a thunderstorm and through hundreds of head of stampeding cattle stirred up by Indians armed only with machetes.
When the battle was over, many French were killed or wounded and their cavalry was being chased by Diaz' superb horsemen miles away. The Mexicans had won a great victory that kept Napoleon III from supplying the confederate rebels for another year, allowing the United States to build the greatest army the world had ever seen. This grand army smashed the Confederates at Gettysburg just 14 months after the battle of Puebla, essentially ending the Civil War.
Union forces were then rushed to the Texas/Mexican border under General Phil Sheridan, who made sure that the Mexicans got all the weapons and ammunition they needed to expel the French. American soldiers were discharged with their uniforms and rifles if they promised to join the Mexican Army to fight the French. The American Legion of Honor marched in the Victory Parade in Mexico, City.
It might be a historical stretch to credit the survival of the United States to those brave 4,000 Mexicans who faced an army twice as large in 1862. But who knows?
In gratitude, thousands of Mexicans crossed the border after Pearl Harbor to join the U.S. Armed Forces. As recently as the Persian Gulf War, Mexicans flooded American consulates with phone calls, trying to join up and fight another war for America.
Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither do Americans. That's why Cinco de Mayo is such a party -- A party that celebrates freedom and liberty. There are two ideals which Mexicans and Americans have fought shoulder to shoulder to protect, ever since the 5th of May, 1862. VIVA! el CINCO DE MAYO!!
Liberty Over Tyranny
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May 5th, 2005 07:58 AM
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May 5th, 2005 08:09 AM
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A history lesson is always welcome. Thanks!
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May 5th, 2005 11:32 AM
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Well, this explains my confusion. I thought 'Cinco de Mayo' meant something like "5 cents for Miracle Whip." That's a good deal for sandwich spreads like mayonnaise. So I always trundle off to our local Pedro's and polish off a few agave cactus.
And so, my Mexican friends, while I have saluted you for many decades for cost containing my luncheon sandwiches, I now salute you anew.
There's has never been mayonnaise on my burritos, and with this updated information, it's all starting to fall into place.
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May 5th, 2005 11:49 AM
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Cinco de Mayo is an excuse for my p/t job's co-workers to leave early to get completely hammered at the local cantina. That means starting now, I won't have anything to work on, which means I get to surf the web and then go home.
"Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa
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May 5th, 2005 12:40 PM
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Break out the Caronas and lime LOL.........
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May 5th, 2005 02:24 PM
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Tourist, that is CLASSIC.
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May 5th, 2005 02:53 PM
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Tourist ~ Betty
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May 5th, 2005 10:13 PM
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Guess I'll be the outcast, but I could care less about Cinco de Mayo....and don't think it should be celebrated here....guess I'm just fed up with the "illegal" flow from the south, and I'm darn tired of "press 1 for English" !!
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May 5th, 2005 11:39 PM
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I always enjoy a good story about "Rifle Droppers" ... err I mean the French

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May 6th, 2005 12:18 AM
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May 6th, 2005 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Guess I'll be the outcast, but I could care less about Cinco de Mayo....and don't think it should be celebrated here....guess I'm just fed up with the "illegal" flow from the south, and I'm darn tired of "press 1 for English" !!

I'm with you....
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Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.
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May 6th, 2005 06:42 AM
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Not So Funny Thought ~ Prospector & Bumper
"guess I'm just fed up with the "illegal" flow from the south, and I'm darn tired of "press 1 for English" !!"
We'll Know That We Are Really "SUNK" when we hafta press "2" or "3" for English!
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May 6th, 2005 06:48 AM
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Since im not a drinker doesnt mean much to me and i hate the whole press 1 for english also course i hate the whole press any # any ways let me talk to a human being
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May 6th, 2005 10:43 AM
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It's 9:30 am and there are four people at work today. Two are pregnant so they couldn't drink, and the other two (including me) don't drink.
Everybody else is suffering from hangovers and either won't show up at all today, or will stumble in sometime after noon.
"Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa
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May 6th, 2005 10:53 AM
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I asked at work why we celebrate another country's holiday here. WOW, you'd thought I'd urinated in thier coffee cups! Gonna hear about it from the captain....no problem, I am going to put in memos to celebrate the Queens birthday, Boxing Day, anything else I can come up with. Hey, we play this right, we can have holidays all year long!
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