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    Woman shot dead in middle of 911 call
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    By KATHLEEN CHAPMAN

    Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

    Sunday, July 29, 2007

    BOYNTON BEACH A woman was shot to death in front of her mother Saturday night, apparently while on the phone with 911 dispatchers.

    Mittie Marie Allen, 49, was on the phone in the bedroom at her mother's home on 11th Avenue, according to Boynton Beach police. Dispatchers said they heard a man in the background ask Allen whether she had called police at 6:46 p.m. The man, who police say was her boyfriend, Anthony H. Williams, then shot her at least once in the head.

    Allen rolled forward, grabbing onto the shirt of her mother, Odessa Cox, pleading for help. Cox ran into the street, where a witness saw her and called 911 at 6:50 p.m. Six minutes later, the SWAT team arrived at the house.

    SWAT members entered the house at 8 p.m., but Williams was not inside. Police believe the 52-year-old lives in West Palm Beach and were looking for him Saturday night.

    Williams has been to prison five times since 1977, according to Department of Corrections records, for crimes including cocaine possession, robbery, aggravated battery and grand theft. He was released most recently in August 2005.

    Police ask anyone who knows Williams or where he may be to call Boynton Beach police at 561 (742-6100) or Crime Stoppers at (800) 458-TIPS (8477).
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    As they say: When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

    I will add that this is not their fault, but it is not possible for 911 to get a call, dispatch it, the officer to respond (even if he were sitting in his car outside the house) in less than 30 seconds. I've never been timed but I'm pretty sure I could get off around 15 well aimed shots in that time.
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    People who are determined to kill and create mayhem will do so even if half the people in town dial 911. There is only one thing you can do to stop a cold blooded murdering SOB and that's to shoot him first. Its unfortunate that we sometimes have to make these decisions but life ain't fair and the human race is flawed beyond repair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBrombach View Post
    I've never been timed but I'm pretty sure I could get off around 15 well aimed shots in that time.
    Oh, do some timed qualifiers and you'll find you can get off many more than 15 well-aimed shots in that time.

    I like how the guy's been to prison five times before. For drug and violence related charges.


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    Just another example of what happens to people who follow the instructions given by police, i.e., call 911, do as instructed by the perp, and wait for the police to get there to take care of the situation.
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    Your call to 911 is good for CYA, but will not solve any immediate problem.
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    I posted about this in "Success Stories" but the thread was removed for not being on-topic. I guess it's okay here, thankfully. (I have also suggested a new sister-category to Success Stories that could be called "The Tragic Cost of Disarmament," ("UN-success Stories"), in which we could collect stories such as this one.

    In my thread, I had posted that I wonder what might have happened if instead of going inside to call the police, she had gone inside to retriever a gun of her own and readied it... I'm sure it might have given her a chance to survive and stop her attacker from killing her.

    What was she thinking in those last moments? Was she finally realizing how stupid it is to think that when an attacker is only a few feet away, the police will be able to put themselves between you and him even though they are miles away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey View Post
    I have also suggested a new sister-category to Success Stories that could be called "The Tragic Cost of Disarmament," ("UN-success Stories"), in which we could collect stories such as this one.
    I agree.

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    You know... I really don't know what to say about these kinds of events.

    I guess one thing comes to mind, and since I'm not a woman, I certainly don't know the answer... But my wife and I constantly wonder why women continue to be involved with people like those who have been in prison Five Times Before for violent and drug offenses!

    To me it's like playing russian roulette or living with a ticking time bomb! I would bet a years salary that this was not the first violent act perpetrated against this woman by this man.

    I see this time and time again on the job as a paramedic. I frequently sit down with victims of domestic violence and have rather length heart to heart conversations with them. (I have kept our EMS unit out of service for well over an hour or longer with victims who we don't even transport to the hospital just to sit down and counsel them to ensure to them that we care about them, there are ways out of the situation, the dangers of staying)

    Explaining with a great deal of empathy, how we understand the cycles, the feeling of being trapped, the fear, the confusion, the role acloholism plays into it, the fear of losing the paycheck the offender may provide the family. All the things they try to rationalize to themselves. I point out the tools and resources available to them to help them escape. The danger they and their children face by staying involved with an abuser... and most the time it seems to fall on deaf ears.

    You can point out all the services available today for DV victims... housing & shelter, free money, counseling, job training, job placement, day care for the kids... All they have to do is reach out and participate.

    The old adage seems to go... you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink!
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    Why was that Yahoo even on the streets ?

    He was a career felon.

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    Very sad story, wish the lady had some way to defend herself.

    Can someone tell me why the SWAT waited an hour to enter the house? I have read this several times recently, SWAT showing up at the scene and for reasons I don't know waiting a long time before entering.
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    If you go here you can listen to the 911 call.

    Um, trying not to disrespect the dead, I have to say that she didn't seem all that, uh, bright.

    I have also read followup stories, since this is local, that indicate she herself has had trouble in the past. One of those "she was trying to turn her life around" stories. She met her murderer-boyfriend in a rehab. So, draw your own conclusions about the likely characteristics of their relationship, or not; your choice.

    Me, I find that some stereotypes exist only because plenty of specimens exist to make them come about. In this case, the things you suspect are probably true of both of the individuals involved. So my own suspicion is that it's somewhat likely she herself was prohibited from legal gun ownership. (Though in fairness, the story does not say she was a felon.) When I first heard of this story, I thought, "What if she'd had a gun to defend herself with?" Now I wonder if she could have.

    Sheesh, though. What a world.

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