Someone who never heard of responsibility

Someone who never heard of responsibility

This is a discussion on Someone who never heard of responsibility within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; http://www.charlotte.com/local/story/218113.html IN MY OPINION 1 less gun for grandkids to worry about DANNYE ROMINE POWELL "Maybe we should buy a gun," I told my husband. ...

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    Someone who never heard of responsibility

    http://www.charlotte.com/local/story/218113.html

    IN MY OPINION
    1 less gun for grandkids to worry about
    DANNYE ROMINE POWELL

    "Maybe we should buy a gun," I told my husband.

    As I waited for him to answer, I listened to the birds chirping. I looked toward the sky, hoping for rain.

    "No, we shouldn't," he said finally.

    "Listen to this," I said, picking up Sunday's paper. I read aloud from the front-page story, "Forced to Kill," about four Charlotte people who had each shot someone trying to protect themselves.

    The killings were legal. Necessary. The police said so.

    I could slip instantly into the shoes of one south Charlotte man, who woke to the sound of the doorbell seven years ago. When he heard loud banging, he grabbed a revolver and ran downstairs.

    A young man had thrown an iron patio chair against the window, shattering the glass. The older man fired two safety shots. When the young man swung the chair again, the older man aimed a third time and fired, killing the intruder.

    I could imagine us in the exact situation -- without a gun -- defenseless.

    Not in my house

    "Can't you see that happening to us?" I said."Sure, I can," my husband said. "But we have an alarm system. And we're not getting a gun."

    "Your reason?"

    "Two reasons," he said. "Our granddaughters."

    That stopped me cold.

    About 200 people in the United States kill someone each year in self-defense.

    But how many die each year -- innocently -- from guns?

    Let me tell you.

    In the 10 years ending in 2006, 486 children under age 18 in North Carolina, alone, died from gun-related injuries.

    Amazing the figure is that low, considering that 82,000 kids in this state are exposed each year to unsafely stored firearms.

    Thanks to my husband's unruffled thinking, our grandchildren won't be among them -- not in our house.

    Unforgettable near miss

    Our conversation triggered a memory, one I usually manage to tamp down.

    I was 9 years old, visiting a neighbor a year or so older, whose father had been a colonel in World War II.

    Her mother ran out to the grocery store, leaving us alone for about half an hour.

    As soon as she'd pulled away, my friend unearthed her father's gun -- a relic from the war -- ornate, as I recall. Official-looking, heavy.

    It's not loaded, she said, pointing the gun at me.

    We sat there, each of us cross-legged in our chair, about eight feet apart. She tried to squeeze the trigger.

    I felt no fear. She'd said it wasn't loaded. Why doubt her?

    She squeezed and squeezed, still pointing. The trigger didn't budge. When she heard her mother in the driveway, she ran to put the gun back.

    My friend called the next day, tearful. Her father had found her out, and spanked her. The gun, she whispered, had been loaded after all.

    I sat speechless, the phone to my ear.

    She was lucky. I was luckier.

    In our house, we'll remain unarmed.

    Defenseless is better than discovering someone we love dead.

    IN MY OPINION Dannye Romine Powell
    Dannye: 704-358-5230; dpowell@charlotteobserver.com
    "Each worker carried his sword strapped to his side." Nehemiah 4:18

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    Defenseless is better than discovering someone we love dead.
    And if that someone you loved is killed because you were defenseless, would they still feel the same?
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    Home Invasion

    Advice from a chief of police on TV the other night.
    Have a cell phone near you and call 911.
    DO NOT run around the house and gather up your children because then you'll all be huddled in one place making it easier for the home invaders to tie you all up.

    Find a room with a door that you can lock and wait in there. Even if it's just a half-bathroom.
    I guess you just go in there - lock the door - and listen while your kids get killed somewhere else in the house because remember...you're not supposed to go get them.

    This guy was such a maroon. nothing he said made any sense at all.

    The reason that he made no sense...was God Forbid he could not say go out and buy a gun on TV...and without a gun - you have no effective way to fight - and without an effective way to fight - you are a defenseless victim - and so you can't really DO anything...but, of course he couldn't say that either so he had to talk gobbledygook.
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    And if that someone you loved is killed because you were defenseless, would they still feel the same?
    I'd surely hope I would be changed. If it were due to my own negligence or abdication of responsibility, if I were not changed then I wouldn't be human. Sadly, many (most?) folks don't have the first clue.

    The 18ft pit being dug at the end of the street has tape and pylons around it but, dang it, I think I'll walk right through the barricade and ignore all responsibility to think. If I drop in, break a leg and die a horrid death, it'll be the city's fault for putting the hole there. The holes are to blame. No more holes. Ban the digging of holes.

    Hm. She was silly and irresponsible as a 9yr old, with an irresponsible friend whose parents no doubt failed to train her. As adults, they've now predictably failed to train their own children, to innoculate them against stupidity and mindless behavior. They also apparently believe in the alarm fairie, that alarms can magically repel invaders instead of merely warning they're here. I'd be willing to bet that, at the moment he said those words about the alarm, that it wasn't even set. Any takers?
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    In our house, we'll remain unarmed.
    Defenseless is better than discovering someone we love dead.

    At least the bad guys know where to go now. These people are sad. The remote possiblity that someone can do something stupid is enough to trun their safety over to the unknowns.
    One of the instructors I had over the weekend sleeps with a Glock under his pillow, mag on the nightstand. His handicapped young son is in the same home and has never even attempted to touch the gun.
    He also demonstrated just how friggin fast someone can load, charge and put two COM and one in the pumpkin from a prone position.
    "If I was an extremist, our founding fathers would all be extremists," he said. "Without them, we wouldn't have our independence. We'd be a disarmed British system of feudal subjectivity."

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    Right...So her grandchild potentially dies down the road IF she doesn't teach him/her about personal responsibility, or they potentially die because she's afraid to do anything about it....which one is worse? I think you know my answer.

    All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - (Edmund Burke)
    Those who fail to act are WORSE than the criminals. They know the truth, they know that evil is coming, yet they make a choice to turn their backs and allow it to happen. Whether these people die due to their own failure to act over irrational fears or lack of moral fortitude, I have absolutely no remorse nor feel any pain for them. They're a product of their own choice, or rather their lack thereof.
    "My God David, We're a Civilized society."

    "Sure, As long as the machines are workin' and you can call 911. But you take those things away, you throw people in the dark, and you scare the crap out of them; no more rules...You'll see how primitive they can get."
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    So, rather than teach her own kids to never allow themselves to be in the situation she experienced as a child (and luckily survived), she decides to put her entire family at the mercy of anyone who wants to do them harm, trusting in only the alarm to somehow save them....

    Why do I get the feeling this supposed conversation never really happened, but was conjured up to push her conclusion.

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    What about the people killed in CT? What about the homeowner in TX who shot 4 armed home invaders?

    Yeah...being defenseless is so much better.

    The husband is a moron--grandfather now? Probably a pot-smokin' hippie from the 1960s who only believed in "peace, love, and happiness"--never had to fight for anything or anyone.

    Hopefully, he will never be subject to a home invasion and his granddaughters will never have to pay the price for his stupidity.

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    I have a plan
    I have a backup plan
    I have a backup backup plan
    I have a gun
    I have a backup gun
    I have a backup backup gun

    I will not be a willing victim
    I will not let my family go defenseless

    Some people are not comfortable with the thought of having to use violence to protect them or their loved ones. It's just not in their blood. No amount of argument or proof will change their minds. Its just the way they are. We don't understand it because we can. We are different. We will always be different. thats life.

    I have acknowledged and embraced the fact that I am capable of incredible violence to protect me and mine.
    To those that paid for my freedom,
    I WILL NEVER FORGET.

    As with all statements I've made and All that I will make, please check your local laws to verify accuracy. (and if i'm wrong let me know as I like to be right in the future) After all I'm just some goofball posting on an internet forum.

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    That dissertation is a fine example of the liberal mindset. This is more thinking alone the lines that a murdered and raped lady is morally superior to a lady with a .357 in her hands and a dying would be rapist-murderer at her feet.

    "Defenseless is better than discovering someone we love dead."

    Rather than teach her kids gun safety, she willing to risk the lives of the entire family at the hands of some violent scumbag. This line of "reasoning" makes me wanna puke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob The Great View Post

    Why do I get the feeling this supposed conversation never really happened, but was conjured up to push her conclusion
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    Thats what I was thinking. She just wanted to write an anti-gun piece and needed a "reason".

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    Quote Originally Posted by FknRa View Post
    Some people are not comfortable with the thought of having to use violence to protect them or their loved ones. It's just not in their blood. No amount of argument or proof will change their minds. Its just the way they are. We don't understand it because we can. We are different. We will always be different. thats life.
    While it is a sad thought, she is right. . . . . for her.

    If she is unwilling to take the responsibility for her self defense and that of her family, she shouldn't get a gun.

    Remember the quote about having a gun means you are armed just like having a piano means you are a musician.

    If she bought a gun, she would merely start a self-fulfilling prophecy. Either she or one of her family would accidently kill themselves with it.

    I can't understand the sheeple mentality but I guess she has a right to graze if she wants to.

    Sad.
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    Perhaps only two hundred are killed every year in justified self-defense. But aren't the defensive uses of a firearm on the order of one to two million-plus a year?

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    But we have an alarm system
    Oh yeah - of course that solves everything!! Maybe some warning but even if it calls to cops - what about response time.

    Amazing ....... no gun is any risk to young folks if properly secured or kept remote from inquisitive hands ... not to mention training kids all about guns early on - this is a cop-out IMO.
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