Gun customer runs out of store with gun

Gun customer runs out of store with gun

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    Gun customer runs out of store with gun

    http://www.nbc12.com/news/state/8870337.html

    Search for suspect in gun theft in Hanover
    From NBC12 News
    Hanover Police need help catching a brazen thief. Police say a man walked into a sporting goods store Monday night, asked to see a hand-gun and then, ran off with it.

    Surveillance photos were taken moments before the heist at Green Top Sporting goods on Route 1. Investigators say several employees tried to catch the man but, he escaped into a waiting car outside.

    "It was a bold crime, in this case very unusual, for someone to actually run out of the store with a gun," says Hanover Police Sgt. Chris Whitley. “Our primary goal is to apprehend the suspects and recover the weapon."

    Witnesses describe their getaway car as a dark blue, Mitsubishi Eclipse with New York license plates.

    Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 780-1000.

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    Story Created: Aug 2, 2007 at 8:08 AM EDT

    Story Updated: Aug 2, 2007 at 12:56 PM EDT
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    That's pretty freakin' bold!
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    that's the difference between a sporting goods chain, and a privately owned gun shop where everyone is carrying. the latter would have had a very different outcome.
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    I (of course) know that gun laws vary from state to state but I'm wondering if that would be considered to be a good shoot.
    A non agressive person who is doing nothing more than running away with a known empty (but stolen) handgun.
    In other words the thief is unarmed and not threatening at all and does nothing more than to do a quick "grab & run" of a handgun.

    I don't think I would take the "back shot" at that running rabbit.

    I'd probably get a plate # and let the LEOs handle it. Would the danger of putting a stolen handgun out onto the street be a justification for murder?
    Not in Pennsylvania I dn't think.

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    does that count as protection of persons and property?

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    Witnesses describe their getaway car as a dark blue, Mitsubishi Eclipse with New York license plates.
    Just makes me wonder what His Honor Bloomberg would say about one of his hoods coming to VA and stealing a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USPnTX View Post
    That's pretty freakin' bold!
    Something similar happened at the Delray Shooting Center down here in Florida a couple years ago. As I recall, one of the employees chased him outside and actually fired shots at him (missed, though). I think. My memory of the news story is hazy.

    Yeah, it's a "bold" move, if by bold you mean "stupid." You rip off a gun store, you almost know you are facing people who are carrying--if not concealed, possibly even open. You really risk getting yourself shot. But who said criminals are smart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phaed View Post
    that's the difference between a sporting goods chain, and a privately owned gun shop where everyone is carrying. the latter would have had a very different outcome.
    Green Top isn't a chain.

    Green Top is a very busy place. It was probably best for the folks working not to be firing at a fleeing perp with a bunch of people around.

    The privately owned shop I worked at we likely wouldn't be shooting at some guy trying to run out the door with something. Too likely to hit a customer or someone on the sidewalk. Besides usually enough LEOs about we wouldn't have to worry about apprehension of the perp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phaed View Post
    that's the difference between a sporting goods chain, and a privately owned gun shop where everyone is carrying. the latter would have had a very different outcome.
    See below, Scott beat me to it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Green Top isn't a chain.

    Green Top is a very busy place. It was probably best for the folks working not to be firing at a fleeing perp with a bunch of people around.

    The privately owned shop I worked at we likely wouldn't be shooting at some guy trying to run out the door with something. Too likely to hit a customer or someone on the sidewalk. Besides usually enough LEOs about we wouldn't have to worry about apprehension of the perp.
    I'm surprised a customer didn't stop him!

    One bad thing about Greentop's location is that it is less than a mile to Interstate 95 (store is located on US1), once there, you can put a lot of miles on quickly.

    A few years ago they were robbed in the middle of the night. Thieves drove a truck (a wrecker IIRC) into the side of the building & made off with a bunch of weapons.
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    IMHO no matter what the product it is not acceptable to shoot a shoplifter, and when all is said and done that is all this guy is a shoplifter.
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    The perp is in deep dahonkey.

    That'a federal crime.
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    The thing with it being a firearm, there is no way of knowing if he was carrying a round for it. If he had a round in his pocket he could then be an armed/loaded BG.

    I don't think it would be a justifiable shoot unless he pointed it at someone. Then the argument could be used that you thought he dropped a round into it.
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    I went by the shop today & talked to a couple of the counter guys.

    This miscreant stole a brand new .45 caliber Glock.

    (p.s. none of the counter guys appear to be armed & haven't been for some time)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrvoy View Post
    IMHO no matter what the product it is not acceptable to shoot a shoplifter, and when all is said and done that is all this guy is a shoplifter.
    i'll agree to disagree on that one. IMHO in most situations it's not safe, but as far as I'm concerned morally there's nothing wrong with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goawayfarm View Post
    I went by the shop today & talked to a couple of the counter guys.

    This miscreant stole a brand new .45 caliber Glock.

    (p.s. none of the counter guys appear to be armed & haven't been for some time)
    Yeah last time I went up there, the most the guy that helped me out behind the handgun counter had on him,was a P-SARK wave opener knife...

    I didn't realize this thread was about one of my fav. places to get supplies and stuff from


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