How's life in your area ?

How's life in your area ?

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    How's life in your area ?

    I didn't know where to put this so I'll post it here. I'm employed in the manufacturing and fabrication industry. Recently, our business in many areas has slowed way down. This is supposed to be our busiest time of year. Most people are running around waving their hands about the numbers this month. I'm more concerned about my numbers for the year. Our competition is laying people off left and right. While I'm not concerned for my job I am concerned for the local population. The NE Ohio area has lost most of it's factories and labor jobs. We all know about the housing problems right now in the US. My question is... is this happening just in my area or is it nationwide? On a side note crime in NE Ohio is going crazy. People are even stealing scap worth little value for whatever reasons.
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    I can only tell you what has happen around me. The business I just left is doing very well. I retired this year at an early age due to bad health. I retired in Feb. and they just now replaced me. Even though business is booming at this company instead of hiring anyone, they work these people 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. And like me these people health are starting to fail them and their family are starting to fall apart. And if we conplained we were told that we were lucky to have a job. And yess in St. Louis the houseing is just as bad as everywhere else. I have my home on the market since Febuary because I need to downsize. I dropped the price twice and of yet have not recieved one offer. I can not afford to give it away. I know something like this should not be on a gun forum but I feel now like a lot of weight been taken off my shoulders.

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    lost my FT job 7 years ago (and it was a replacement for a good job)

    spent 5 years working three part time jobs at a time...

    went back to school - finished my BA and just finished 1st year of law school, and have started my MBA - West Central Ohio - there are NO jobs unless you are young - they see grey hair and find an excuse not to hire ya...

    looking for FT work again since July

    cannot seem to find out what "they" are looking for...

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    I work in the Defense sector... business is booming.

    I got laid off due to my employer losing a contract bid. (It happens) Put my resume on Monster, and had 3 offers for more money within a week. I'm kind of enjoying my vacation, but I need to pick one in the next couple of days.

    And hell, if my wife was willing to let me take a "Overseas Opportunity" I could double my current rate. (Thinking about it)

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    Well - tho off-topic it can be said to cover a lot of ground - even to gun oriented things if we stretch it!

    I think the malaise is probably pretty general tho there are probably pockets of apparent health and success - much will depend on the business. For sure the housing aspect is getting grim - instance Morgage brokers going down the pan or close to it - it does not bode well at all.

    My area has been variable .... farmers have a harder time these days - not helped in some spots by lack of rain - but I do see retail outlets failing more these days - I guess reduced public spending in certain categories.

    The ''push the workforce'' is definitely very apparent - to the extent that some places will mandate working a whole weekend overtime and to heck with a guy's family life!

    There are contrasts tho round me ... Kennametal, a big manufacturer of carbide tools - has of late lost a big chunk of workforce so I am told because of worker treatment, and even an inability to seemingly get good powder to make the darned things. Thinking is that the plant will close - and give more work to China - not good as other jobs will be lost.

    OTOH - REI (Recreational Equipment International) has near finished setting up a huge facility to handle they say - 40% of nation's mail order stuff - that is good for local jobs in theory tho what conditions will be like is hard to tell. Another company - JLG, that makes access equipment has restarted here after seeming to go down a few years ago, a small bright light maybe.

    Our local Wally World distribution ceter has a terrible rep' - very much one of slave driving!

    Overall ''feel'' tho is far from good - and I keep my fingers crossed that the company my son works for stays busy as, it seems to be an oasis of good treatment of workforce in a large desert of worker abuse. We are on a downhill slope tho overall IMO.
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    Construction is still booming around here. For Sale signs on homes may be posted for a month longer than usual, many are staying in their homes rather than upgrading/ downsizing. Property values have increased slightly. We have a Slots Casino being built and are growing due to the transplants from NYC and Philly. Help Wanted signs at most retail and some manufacturing locations. Taxes are holding steady. Regular gas is $2.69.

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    I'm in LaGrange, Ga. (west Georgia). About 15 minutes from here in West Point, GA. (west), a KIA auto plant is under construction. Its slated to open about 2009. There will be plenty of 3rd party manufacturers who will be opening stores and what not, to support the plant and the workers with their families. Also down the road (50 miles south) in Ft. Benning, GA., the army will have about 50,000 more folks coming.
    So either west georgia or east alabama, will be a good place to be for TON's of work. The University of Auburn is 45 minutes from here and downtown Atlanta is about 1 hour and and 15 minutes north from here.
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    "People are even stealing scrap worth little value for whatever reasons." Just a comment on this sentence, scrap is worth a lot these days. We have had several thefts of our yard for aluminum and I have read reports of many other businesses being broken into for copper wire and other metals. They are even stealing catalytic converters for the metal in them.
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    I should have worded that better. We're in the aluminum fab business. We've had thefts lately and never before. I've personally removed a truckload of guys during the day poking around. Most didn't speak english. Reports are coming in daily of scrap thefts at other business. I've never seen it happen on this scale before. To put this in context we're a small farming community outside any type of real city.
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    Reports are coming in daily of scrap thefts at other business
    OMG yes - tell me about it. It is becoming endemic if not pandemic within the nation - certainly within a large area I am in touch with.

    Electrical contactors having huge coils of copper wire ripped off - empty houses stripped of copper pipe .. and even too aluminum beer kegs have been targeted. Seems anything not nailed down of value is being got at - all the more I suspect to fuel meth or other addictions. Scarp is worth good bucks these days - oh and good tools also.
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    I'm in the Nuclear Business. In the next several years, as it stands now, we will have 29 new Nuclear units built.

    The problem is, most of the people that built the first fleet of a hundred or so are retired. As a result, any sort of worker with ANY sort of Nuclear background will be able to work about anywhere, and because of the law of supply and demand, in the early part of it they will be able to name their price.

    Even now, headhunters are going berserk trying to get a jump on the competition by hiring people ASAP.

    ...in the meantime, theft of steel remains at an all time high. Don't turn your back on copper,brass or even mild steel. The Chinese are buying up everything in the world,lead, minerals, you name it just to keep their economy going.

    The recent influx of illegal aliens that is being sponsored by those in the Federal Government, are raising every sort of statistic in community's all over America. Violent crime is on the rise, strong arm robbery's, rape, theft and even drunk driving.

    People are getting fed up. The Federal Government does whatever it dang well pleases in spite of overwhelming opposition of its citizens. The Super-duper North American Highway project continues. When people wake up and see there land seized by BS "eminent domain"procedures by the Federal Government, perhaps they will wake up. Since that" corridor " is supposed to be at least 1/2 mile wide from the southern border of the U.S. to the northern border, any guess as to how much private property will be seized ?

    Get hurt ? Need an emergency room ? In many hospitals, ER's are filled with illegal aliens that use them as a doctors office for every and any thing because they have no insurance, no money to pay and they are a very real drain on resources...that WE are paying for every time we get pay our bill. The average trip to the ER is now well over 1000 dollars per incident.

    Our CHL classes have been full. People are waking up and they are getting fed up with the governments supposed inability to do anything positive. Personally, I think that those in power in this country sit back and laugh and take bets at how long we can last as a nation before we IMPLODE.

    So many of our major manufacturing duty's have been outsourced to different countries that we don't have near the manufacturing capability that made us WIN during WW2. Most of our Vocational Centers that taught skilled crafts have been closed due to lack of interest.

    The average student graduating from college now starts life with over 40,000 in debt...that will take many years to pay off at a time when they typically are in debt the most.

    Between OSHA,the IRS, the EPA, and a host of other Federal Alphabet Organizations is it really any wonder that most of our jobs are leaving the country to go south where they don't have to worry about anything except paying an average of a dollar and hour for wages ?




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    I think we are all in considerable trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by tapout1003 View Post
    . My question is... is this happening just in my area or is it nationwide? On a side note crime in NE Ohio is going crazy. People are even stealing scap worth little value for whatever reasons.
    When I was in elementary school in the late 1940s, our teachers would collect money to feed the starving children in Europe.

    I recently returned from Europe. The Euro is a fabulously high value currency; the city I was in was totally modern; there were no street people, gangs of roving teens; the toilets were clean; the cab drivers efficient and polite and not visa overstays from a 4th world country.

    It is well known now that our health care is far from the best, our life expectancy not what it should be.

    We have college grads who can't find work and can't pay off the student loans.

    The only thing keeping the economy viable where I live is the income from a huge state university and a state and federal prison system which is flung out over about 10,000 square miles (100 miles by 100 miles) with prisons here and there. That is, the economy is afloat not because of free enterprise but because of the huge infusion of government money into the local economy.

    Housing prices have not followed the national trends on the way up. Return on investment in a home is roughly what you could get by leaving your money in a bank CD for the same time frame.

    Our nearby rural areas are disgusting pockets of extreme poverty and infrastructure neglect.

    You ask, "is this happening just in my area or is it nationwide."

    I think we have a nationwide crisis with no one cause and no easy answers. What took 50 + years to destroy (the value of the dollar) won't get fixed overnight.

    BTW, I'm about to retire and I'm doing O.K. I wish I could say the same for my 30 something son and his lady friend, and for several middle aged couples I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    We have college grads who can't find work and can't pay off the student loans.

    I wish I could say the same for my 30 something son and his lady friend, and for several middle aged couples I know.
    My GF and I both have what I would call "good" jobs. She has a degree in a couple computer fields and was never able to find a job anywhere close to our area. I went to high school ..that's it. I got a job in a Freightliner Dealer at 18 and went from there. By the way we're still paying for the school loans for her today.

    I see things getting harder everyday. Some people I work with will never be able to retire. The area where we live is flooded with what I think are illegals. I got news today of lay offs for more people in our area. Hoover is gone or will be soon along with many others.

    I'm sure you guys know where I'm going with this.... all those people who said the US would never get to the point it is now have been proven wrong. The elderly can't afford the levys the schools are trying to pass. I don't want to say it but I'm afraid we're on he edge with looting right around the corner.

    By the way there is a guy up on charges for firing a warning shot at some people stealing scrap from his property. They got caught and walked out of jail and he was charged and jailed.
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    Doing ok in lansing mi. I work two jobs,mostly to pay for my toys, I have been with the truck dealer i work full time for 32 yrs, the part time one for 2. There is work hear if you look for it.
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    Not too long after college I bought a farm, expanded it and have been doing this for 25+ years. I'm doing okay, having spent great effort and sacrifice getting rid of debt. Locally everything seems pretty stable, actually I see lots of help-wanted signs particularly for convenience store/restaurant work. I don't know about the market for white-collar jobs.

    Recently I was having an exam at the doctors office and he mentioned that he envied me being able to work out in the open, I told him (seriously) that I was just envying him for being able to work inside an air conditioned place.
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