Outrage: Armed Carjacker Thwarted By Good Samaritan and gets fired.

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    Angry Outrage: Armed Carjacker Thwarted By Good Samaritan and gets fired.

    FORT LAUDERDALE - As the lunch rush started Monday, waiter Juan Canales stopped a carjacker from taking a woman's Honda CRV out of the parking lot where he worked.

    Hours later he lost his job.

    At about 11:30 a.m. Monday, Massiel Marquardt, 22, walked out of a Subway restaurant at the Southland Shopping Center in the 900 block of State Road 84. A man approached her from behind and pointed a 4-inch pocketknife at her left side, she said.

    "He said, 'Give me your car keys or you're gonna die,'" said Marquardt, who moved to South Florida from Georgia two weeks ago. "Honestly, I don't know where he came from."

    Marquardt said she handed over the keys to her 2007 Honda and ran back toward the shops, screaming, "Help me!"

    Canales, 42, who was opening up 84 Thai Food for the lunch crowd, sprang into action. He said he caught up to the suspect, Albert Means, 46, and told him, "You're not leaving with this truck."

    Canales said the suspect pulled out the knife to stab him but Canales grabbed a two-by-four piece of woodfrom a nearby truck. Canales said he swung at Means and threatened to hit him with the wood if he tried to get into Marquardt's Honda.

    The man lowered his knife, and Canales brought him to the ground. Three other men in the crowd that had formed rushed forward to hold Means down until police arrived.

    "It was a man's instinct," said Canales, a married father of three who has six sisters. "That's all it was. I saw a woman in distress."

    Police said they arrested Means on aggravated assault and armed robbery charges. He had two arrest warrants out, one for drug paraphernalia possession and another for probation violation, Detective Kathy Collins said. He is being held in the Broward County Jail.

    Canales, who worked at 84 Thai Food for three weeks, returned to work after spending an hour talking to police and the media. Once the lunch shift ended, his boss fired him.

    "The owner got belligerent" about all the attention his scuffle with the carjacker generated, Canales said.

    The owner, listed in corporate records as Sathaporn Yosagraiof Fort Lauderdale, could not be reached for comment despite two calls to the restaurant and one to his home.

    A former electrician, Canales was convicted of robbery in 2004 and attempted cocaine possession in 2006, Florida criminal records show. He served prison time and has been working to stay on a straight path ever since.

    "I was a bad person once upon a time and I decided to change my life," Canales said. "That doesn't have anything to do with what I did."

    When he was fired another instinct kicked in, as Canales tried to figure out how to support his wife, Jennifer, and sons Eddy, 2, Jason, 8, and Miguel, 16.

    "Like any other father on this planet and in this world, I gotta take my butt out here and get another job," he said.

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    Well that's a crock!

    "All that evil needs to prevail, is for good men to do nothing."

    And when good men do something, they get fired

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    Good for him but total BS he got fired or it. They say no good deed goes unpunished sadly that is all too true a lot of the time.
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    Looks like he paid his debt and is trying to become a member of society again but look how he is treated.
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    "The owner got belligerent" about all the attention his scuffle with the carjacker generated, Canales said.
    I'd have thought almost the opposite - attention for a food place could be good, in particular if folks stop by to also congratulate the good guy.

    The boss needs some lessons in understanding .... and can't help wondering how it would have played out if it was the boss man being threatened and having his vehicle taken!!!

    Amazingly unbelievable almost.
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    "The owner got belligerent" about all the attention his scuffle with the carjacker generated, Canales said.

    The owner, listed in corporate records as Sathaporn Yosagraiof Fort Lauderdale, could not be reached for comment despite two calls to the restaurant and one to his home.
    Maybe the owner is here illegally and doesn't want the attention.
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    Is it me, or did the waiter go looking for trouble?

    The way the report reads is that the woman managed to get away from the BG. Sure the car jacker got her truck, but did the waiter really need to give chase?

    The waiter took off after the truck...why? There was no longer a direct threat to life and limb because the woman got away from the BG...or was there?

    Would the better option have been to protect the woman and call the police?

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    What a crock.

    If ever there was a worthy wrongful termination lawsuit, this would be it.

    Almost seems like good Samaritan laws should protect this guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigsauer View Post
    Would the better option have been to protect the woman and call the police?
    Perhaps legally, yes. Morally, this guy did the right thing, and if there are no charges against him, his employer can just go sit on a tack, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe he'll be happy if his next employee pees himself and goes into the fetal position when the place gets robbed.

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    I don't think that the ex-employee should really have gone after the BG after the woman was safe, but that's another story.
    I do think that the employee's assistance to that woman was something that should have been by his employer, not fired!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigsauer View Post
    Is it me, or did the waiter go looking for trouble?

    The way the report reads is that the woman managed to get away from the BG. Sure the car jacker got her truck, but did the waiter really need to give chase?

    The waiter took off after the truck...why? There was no longer a direct threat to life and limb because the woman got away from the BG...or was there?

    Would the better option have been to protect the woman and call the police?
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    I don't think that the ex-employee should really have gone after the BG after the woman was safe, but that's another story.
    Sorry to disagree with you guys, but that mentality is why 3 planes hit their targets on 11SEP01 & ONE did NOT! The first three did nothing to impede the BGs, but on Flight 93 they at least stopped them from injuring anybody else.

    In this case should the good Samaritan have let the guy take the vehicle? What if he ran over a pedestrian or caused some other injury or mayhem on his flight from the scene?

    I'm in the camp that if you can stop the BG....STOP HIM!
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    Whether he should/shouldn't have stopped the man, it's certainly no reason to get fired, in my opinion. I think a bunch of polite phone calls to 84 Thai Food stating you're a regular patron and you're no longer going to eat there might be in order.
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    Sorry to disagree with you guys, but that mentality is why 3 planes hit their targets on 11SEP01 & ONE did NOT! The first three did nothing to impede the BGs, but on Flight 93 they at least stopped them from injuring anybody else.
    That is complete bs. There was no threat from the crook after he took the car and the woman ran away....versus hijackers taking a plane in order to crash it, which the passengers actually knew ahead of time was going to happen.

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    We have become a Nation of cowards when we receive punishment or any punitive action for standing up and defending those who are defenseless..... That "Thai" gentleman should be moved back to his country of origin if that is his attitude, he certainly doesn't belong here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigsauer View Post
    That is complete bs. There was no threat from the crook after he took the car and the woman ran away....versus hijackers taking a plane in order to crash it, which the passengers actually knew ahead of time was going to happen.
    How do you know the threat was over? Do you KNOW what the BG had planned to do with the STOLEN VEHICLE? He may have been on his way to rob a bank or some other nefarious deed. He may have been on his way to kill his girlfriend...who knows what he was doing.....I'll bet he wasn't on his way to church!

    As to the passengers NOT knowing the plans of the hijackers, of course they didn't know, but they allowed it to happen. They sat in their seats & I'm sure many thought......"The authorities will handle this...".....We see how that turned out.
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