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    Community Sensitivity Training to Fight Crime

    Philly is one of the most restrictive cities for CC from what I hear. Now the police chief has a new technique, 10,000 volunteers armed with sensitivity training.

    Philly Seeks 10,000 Men to Guard Streets

    Sep 13, 5:18 PM (ET)

    By MARYCLAIRE DALE

    PHILADELPHIA (AP) - The city's embattled police chief, acknowledging that police alone cannot quell a run of deadly violence, has called on 10,000 black men to patrol the streets to reduce crime.

    Sylvester Johnson, who is black, says black men have a duty to protect more vulnerable residents. He wants each volunteer to pledge to work three hours a day for at least 90 days.

    "It's time for African-American men to stand up," Johnson told the Philadelphia Daily News, which first reported the story Wednesday. "We have an obligation to protect our women, our children and our elderly. We're going to put men on the street. We're going to train them in conflict resolution."

    The program's backers include Dennis Muhammad, a former Nation of Islam official who has been hired by police departments in Detroit, Syracuse, N.Y., and other cities to conduct community-sensitivity training.

    Philadelphia, the nation's sixth-largest city, has nearly 1.5 million residents, 44 percent of them black. It has notched 294 homicides this year. More than 80 percent of the slayings involve handguns, and most involve young black males.

    Johnson plans to introduce the "Call to Action: 10,000 Men, It's a New Day" program on Oct. 21, three months before his planned retirement.

    "He won't get anywhere near that number. If he gets 1,000 people, it will be great," said Heather DeRussy, who leads a local Guardian Angels chapter that has recruited just seven members in the past two years. Given its size, the group focuses on a single north Philadelphia park plagued by prostitution and drug use.

    DeRussy lauded Johnson for his effort but said she fears the volunteers will find it dangerous to patrol their home turf.

    "In their own neighborhoods, with the 'Don't snitch' mentality, they're kind of putting themselves in harm's way, because there are going to be people who disagree with what they're doing," DeRussy said.

    The men who join Johnson's program will not carry weapons or make arrests but will instead emphasize conflict resolution, similar to the Guardian Angels' ground rules.

    Police in other cities have hired Muhammad in recent years to provide sensitivity training to officers and community members, but it was not immediately clear whether any have deployed a volunteer patrol force.

    Johnson, who had led the police department for seven years, appears increasingly frustrated by the daily gun violence. He and other city leaders have blamed the Legislature for not passing gun-control measures.

    Mayor John F. Street, whose term is up at the beginning of 2008, has voiced support for the program, but it was not clear whether he would become involved. His office did not return a call for comment Thursday, nor did Johnson's office.

    Street and Johnson have both endured withering criticism from frustrated residents and community leaders who say they should do more to halt the violence.

    One gun-violence researcher said the idea of putting citizens on patrol had the potential to show children that adults care.

    "A steady exposure to violence just creates this toxic environment for children and youth. As adults, we don't want them to think they have to handle it on their own," said Rose Cheney, executive director of the Firearm and Injury Center at the University of Pennsylvania.

    "If, by putting people out there - not just as a town watch, but as resources who connect them to what they need from adults - that can be very promising," she said.

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    Who's going to police the "10,000" ?
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    Sensitivity training=Bang Bang....Bang!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flagflyfish View Post
    Sensitivity training=Bang Bang....Bang!

    Oh...I thought it was where is the most sensitive place to put a shot...silly me
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    Not really a General Firearm issue, other than the men will not be armed. Doesn't really fit anywhere else so I moved it to O/T.
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    "A steady exposure to violence just creates this toxic environment for children and youth. As adults, we don't want them to think they have to handle it on their own," said Rose Cheney, executive director of the Firearm and Injury Center at the University of Pennsylvania.

    That's a pretty bold statement. What is a toxic environment? What is a steady exposure to violence? What is youth? I would venture to guess that most of the violence taking place is drug or gang related, and is committed by 17-30 year olds. If "children and youth" don't have to handle "it" on their own, then who's going to handle it for them? Our society is growing more and more socialistic. If today's children are protected their whole lives, who will protect their children? Its pathetic. Let the bad guys kill each other, defend yourself and your family, and everything will be okay. The government needs to stop trying to prevent bad things from happening because its just ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flagflyfish View Post
    Sensitivity training=Bang Bang....Bang!
    That's pretty sensitive...
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    "It's time for African-American men to stand up," Johnson told the Philadelphia Daily News, which first reported the story Wednesday.
    Right, so they tell them to "stand up" by telling them to stand down......and the future darwin award nominees are....
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    What a bunch of incompetent morons.

    They want to use the same touchy feely crap to fight crime that got them their record numbers of murder in the first place. Makes perfect sense to me...

    Obviously they arent smart enough to know to fight fire with fire.

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    The problem in Philly is the ever prevalent "Stop Snitching'" mentality.
    Until that stops, nothing will get better.

    I say they will have trouble getting 100 men together, let alone 10,000...
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    Didn't they already try that in California?


    oh, wait, that was a Riot. LOL!!!

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    You've got to be kidding - 10,000 of them ? They won't get 10 because the Police Chief used the nasty word -- WORK -- three hrs a day for 90 days. Most of them haven't worked over three hrs in years.

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    Hey there Mr. Badguy... you stop right where you are and put your gun away... or I'll be insensitive to your needs. I might just call you a bad word!

    I'm sure the criminals must be getting pretty scared right now!

    What in the world are a few unarmed people with no authority going to do other than get themselves shot? Sounds like a great idea to me. I guess that's what you get when you have in office.

    This is almost as ridiculous as that school making people take the gun out of the school mascots hand on emblems.

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    I noted that the article in question mentioned that the chief of police is frustrated by the legislature's failure to enact proper gun control...for whom? the local innocent civilian bystanders who are/will be unable to protect themselves? I doubt the assorted junkies/crack dealers /criminals are really concerned with such matters...What nonsense!!!!

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