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SCOTUS expands Eminent Domain

This is a discussion on SCOTUS expands Eminent Domain within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; A few years ago I watched a case of eminent domain unravel. It involved a lady and a sizeable chunk of property she had. The ...

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    A few years ago I watched a case of eminent domain unravel. It involved a lady and a sizeable chunk of property she had. The school board decided they needed a new school, and the town said, "we have this wonderful plot of land over here that's for free - it's a great place to put the school."

    No, the Superintendent of Schools said. (The Super used to be one of my teachers in high school.) I want This Plot of land Right Here. He gave a cheap bid to the landowner, and naturally, the landowner refused. There were still squeaks in the background about the sizeable, wonderful and free publicly owned land, but the Super wanted to have his way, because by golly, he had to have that plot of land right there.

    So he stomped his foot, pushed some Eminent Domain buttons, and now there's a fine new school on that lady's land .... around a couple miles from the public land the Super refused.
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    Betty brings up the perfect case how groups that promote things I otherwise agree with often wind up screwing me.

    The logical reaction to that case might be "Let's get that bad old school district! Let's cut their funding and do this that and the other to them!"

    So the voters call for a voucher program and everyone takes their money and pulls their kids out of that school. Hey that's economic freedom, right?

    Well what happens is that they take the voucher money, spend it on beer and marijuana, and tell their kid to go get a job.

    That school district then implodes to the point where it's still operating but so hopelessly broken it will never improve. 20 years later the politicians will come along and say "Hey this school district sucks. Let's dissolve it."

    And thus you have a community where the only children receiving an education are the wealthy who never attended public schools in the first place. And who do you think supports the voucher program that seeks to destroy the public school system in the first place?

    Oh and in the meantime that district fires me and there's nowhere to go because all the schools have been gutted or otherwise destroyed in a similar manner.

    What would be the correct way to approach that situation would be either pass some legislation that says "Mr. Superintendant do you see this little clause right here? You can't do that it's illegal."

    Either that, or here's a thought, bring it up in front of the democratically elected school board and have the Superintendent fired or his decision overridden.

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    What would be the correct way to approach that situation would be either pass some legislation that says "Mr. Superintendant do you see this little clause right here? You can't do that it's illegal." Either that, or here's a thought, bring it up in front of the democratically elected school board and have the Superintendent fired or his decision overridden.
    The problem is that the Bubba System is alive and well, especially in small Southern towns, like the one where this all happened. The school board consists of Bubba Buddies. The Little People will get screwed, and the big wigs with the power and money won't have to worry about shopping malls plopped on top of their houses, because they're the one with the power and money to dictate where those shopping malls will go. I can't picture a gov't passing a law saying "no, it's not right," because all they can see is the wonderful revenue those shopping malls will make over a few peewny property tax dollars from Joe Schmoe.

    "Hi, would you please pass a law to prevent yourself from plopping a shopping mall on top of my house?"

    The Judicial Branch is separate from the Legislative Branch for checks and balances, and now that the Supreme Court of the United States has said the Legislative Branch (the local/state/federal governments who allow developers to plop those shopping malls on top of your land) has the authority to take our property for other than public use when eminent domain is already abused, who's there to protect us, to speak for us?

    I would admire a politician who can stand up and say, "this is not right," and work to repeal the court's decision.
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    Ditto: UNREAL

    Well, the last I heard those homeowners who want to stay on their own property are going to stay & meet the bulldozers.
    So NOW...they are likely going to be turned into criminals because they don't want to sell their homes and their property & they don't want to get out of their own homes that they OWN?
    This should get interesting if they don't wimp out.
    I sure am on their side.
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    The sad part is the guys on the bulldozers aren't even the badguys; they're family guys who have homes of their own and work for the construction companies because they need money to feed their own tables. The confrontation is going to be between the grunts and the homeowners. So in the end, it's the corporate powermongers and apathetic politicians who get to get to sit back and watch the show.

    The entire town should pour out and stand alongside each other in their fellow neighbors' yards, because while it may not be their houses, theirs may be next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty
    The sad part is the guys on the bulldozers aren't even the badguys; they're family guys who have homes of their own and work for the construction companies because they need money to feed their own tables.
    Very right. The REAL bad guys say things like this, "This kind of weapon can blow up a limousine or a helicopter, can take out a vehicle, armored vehicle, maybe even a mile away. It can shoot through seven buildings!"

    We need to start identifying the real problems.

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    So the voters call for a voucher program and everyone takes their money and pulls their kids out of that school. Hey that's economic freedom, right?
    You say that like it's a bad thing. The money that gets sucked into school districts belongs, after all, to the taxpayer. Why shouldn't they be allowed to spend it as they see fit?

    Well what happens is that they take the voucher money, spend it on beer and marijuana, and tell their kid to go get a job.
    Careful, your elitism is showing through. This is the same claptrap that's spouted about homeschoolers. You people act like all parents everywhere are just quivering in anticipation of their next fix. Those that can afford to educate their children, will. Those that can't will send them to public school.

    That school district then implodes to the point where it's still operating but so hopelessly broken it will never improve. 20 years later the politicians will come along and say "Hey this school district sucks. Let's dissolve it."
    Right. Dissolve it nd use that funding for a viable school district. What's wrong with that?

    And thus you have a community where the only children receiving an education are the wealthy who never attended public schools in the first place. And who do you think supports the voucher program that seeks to destroy the public school system in the first place?
    Another "sky is falling" scenario. Who supports school vouchers? Everyone who has seen the yearly increase in their taxes, and endured the endless cries for more money "for the children" just so Johnny can learn about Heather's 2 mommies, and how to put a condom on a banana, but still can't read the ingredients on a water bottle. The problem with public education and the people that supprt it is that they want the moon and the stars, but only on someone else's dime. test scores are on a downward spiral, so what does the teacher's union and the so-called "experts" do? Do they fight for more class time? Fewer extra currcicular activities so as to be able to concentrate on the basics? No. They lower the standards. Outfits like the Sylvan Learning centers are sprouting up all over because parents are starting to see the importance of a quality education, and they're recognizing that it's not happening in school.

    Oh and in the meantime that district fires me and there's nowhere to go because all the schools have been gutted or otherwise destroyed in a similar manner.
    There it is, that's why you fight so hard to maintain the status quo, right? Because without a teaching job, you'd have to compete in an industry that requires RESULTS! Most teachers have become really comfy in their positions as educators to the point where they stoppedm prepping themselves for the day when they would either want to or have to do something else.

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