White Rock-area slain clerk also had gun, police say

White Rock-area slain clerk also had gun, police say

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    White Rock-area slain clerk also had gun, police say

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    Victim's weapon failed

    09:13 PM CDT on Friday, November 2, 2007

    By TANYA EISERER / The Dallas Morning News
    teiserer@dallasnews.com

    A White Rock-area convenience store clerk who was slain during an apparent robbery last Saturday night was also armed with a gun, police said Friday.

    Police now believe that the slain clerk, Abate Z. Hailu, 43, saw that the two men were armed as they came into the Fina Food Mart on Garland Road shortly before 11 p.m. Saturday.

    The clerk pointed the gun at them, said Lt. Craig Miller, a homicide supervisor.

    "There was a malfunction with the weapon, and obviously Mr. Hailu was not able to use the weapon" because the safety was still on, Lt. Miller said.

    The two robbery suspects then fired their weapons at Mr. Hailu, who died at the scene, police said. Store surveillance cameras recorded the crime and images of the two men. The two suspects also went behind the counter and took a small amount of cash and some property, police said.

    One suspect, Howard Lee Simon, 22, was arrested Monday in connection with Mr. Hailu's death. Police are looking for a second suspect, Deshawn Larkin, 26.

    Anyone with information about Mr. Larkin's whereabouts may call police at 214-671-3661.
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    The clerk pointed the gun at them, said Lt. Craig Miller, a homicide supervisor.

    "There was a malfunction with the weapon, and obviously Mr. Hailu was not able to use the weapon" because the safety was still on, Lt. Miller said.
    Anything can happen, in the heat of the moment. This is an example of why I carry a gun that's got one up the pipe and no external safety lever to worry about. In the heat of the moment, managing empty magazines is about all I want to have to handle, in terms of "failures."

    Perceptive of the clerk, to have taken immediate steps once he knew the crooks were there for no good. Condolences to his family. May the spineless little murderers be found and deep dipped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    "There was a malfunction with the weapon, and obviously Mr. Hailu was not able to use the weapon" because the safety was still on, Lt. Miller said.

    I have a hunch.....

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    shoulda spent more time at the range with his sidearm, can't expect to use your tools correctly under stress if you haven't spent the time to learn how to use them without stress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Anything can happen, in the heat of the moment. This is an example of why I carry a gun that's got one up the pipe and no external safety lever to worry about. In the heat of the moment, managing empty magazines is about all I want to have to handle, in terms of "failures."
    Right on.
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    That's awful. So, was it a malfunction, misfire or the safety being engaged?

    It's about time for me to do some immediate action drills.

    And I want my pistols simple, only manually actuated items would be: trigger and mag release with the slide release optional (on all guns but really not needed). No manually actuated: safeties or decockers. And especially no freaking internal gun locks.

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    Lack of Parctice IMHO. Have a gun and KNOW your gun.
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    I hate the Glock, it has no safety,
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    Sound like a lack of practice with your carry.
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    Exclamation

    QUOTE=blueyedevil;518394]shoulda spent more time at the range with his sidearm, can't expect to use your tools correctly under stress if you haven't spent the time to learn how to use them without stress.[/QUOTE]A-MEN!

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    I use to switch between carrying my HK 40 p2000 and my para ord tac 4 until one day at the range I was going through holster drills and pulled the trigger on the TAC 4 and realized I forgot to disengage the safety. At that point I no longer interchange my carry piece and stick with the HK 100% of the time. IMHO that just eliminates 1 more thing to go wrong when the **** HTF.
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    CCWINNC - how about switching between the P2000 and your XD's? Any issues for you with re-loading drills? I have the P2000 and glocks. The mag release being in different places, I wonder if you ever ran into an issue practicing re-loading (releasing the magazine). I've been mostly carrying my glocks so I haven't run into this. I'd hate for it to happen.

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    Cool

    I was just thinking about this yesterday.
    Ain't gonna happen with any of my HK P7's, my HKP2000SK, my Sig P230 or my Kahr MK9 Elite.



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