November 6th, 2007 03:40 PM
What to do with Pirates?
There I was, at the health club* climbing the stairs to nowhere. I was without reading material, and the only two monitors I could see were tuned to "The Ellen Digeneris Show" and CNN. Faced with those two evils, I took the coward's way out and watched CNN. They were reporting on the problem of modern day piracy on the high seas. The discussion went from who (bad guys, duh), where (off shore of lawless areas of the world) and when (whenever they can get away with it) to what. The "what" in this case was "what should we do with the pirates once the hostages If any) are released and the pirates captured?"
What came to my mind first was "shoot them", but apparently the CNN anchor's concern was where they should be tried, under what laws, where should they be held and subsequently incarcerated. I guess hanging them from the yardarm is out as well....
*And when did it go from a gym to a health club anyways? It sure looks like a gym.
November 6th, 2007 03:46 PM
Piracy to me is independent of nationality - piracy is piracy and those employing same deserve deep six and nothing better. It's akin to a home invasion at very least.
The "what" in this case was "what should we do with the pirates once the hostages If any (ALIVE!)
are released and the pirates captured?"
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November 6th, 2007 03:47 PM
Keelhaul em then send em ta Davie Jones' locker!
November 6th, 2007 04:04 PM
Originally Posted by AmyH
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November 6th, 2007 04:07 PM
Steam so that you're more then 12 miles off shore (out of territorial waters)... (aka 12 miles from land) and see how well they swim....
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November 6th, 2007 04:25 PM
I saw a tv program about a year ago where pirates out of some country in africa armed with RPG's in small boats, were laying low, then chasing cruise ships threatening to fire on them. I think the pirates were basically looking for a paycheck from the cruise line companies to stay out of the shipping lanes. I recall that one cruise ship had some sort of sonic emitter mounted on the stern, it was a directional tone could be aimed at the pirates, and the tone would cause them to vomit, headache, etc. The cruise ship had some other non-lethal tactics which I don't remember now, because I was thinking at the time about the effectiveness of a pair of .50 calibers mounted on the stern.
As a passenger it wouldn't bother me, in fact I'd feel safer with the .50's, but could you imagine the publicity nightmare for the cruise line, that would follow if the pirates were killed as witnessed/filmed by the passengers? Of course there would be a publicity nightmare if pirates were to kill innocent passengers too.
I don't know about the threat level of the pirates off the coast of Africa today. I'm guessing they've either been paid off, or some stealthy plane or gun boat shadowing the cruise ships sunk the pirates boats and put 'em out of the pirate business.
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November 6th, 2007 04:30 PM
How bout hanging them from the yardarm?
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November 6th, 2007 04:43 PM
Pirates have been operating at will out of Somalia where there is no effective gov't. We will even pursue them but stop short at enterring the waters of another nation (one with no gov't, no laws, and no navy, where pirates are based out of...)
Are there any maritine laws applying to piracy?
At the least we could remove the tools of their trade and set them free... 12 miles from shore while throwing chum in the water. The coast off Africa is infested with Zambizi (also known as Bull) sharks which are very aggressive...
November 6th, 2007 04:48 PM
November 6th, 2007 04:57 PM
I read recently how piracy is alive and well around Africa and Asia. They hijack cargo ships for ransom and sometimes kill crew or passengers. It, according to the article, is a major problem in that part of the world. The only way that they will be captured is by some government force and that country would of course try them. Other than that I don't think ships on the sea are interested in capturing them, just fighting their way out of, or simply escaping from the trap they have set.
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November 6th, 2007 05:48 PM
Originally Posted by JD
I'm all in favor of the twin .50's, myself, although I guess the non-lethal methods can work too. As far as what laws to try them under when captured... I'm not too familiar with maritime law, but isn't the captain's word the ultimate authority? If he didn't want to waste the ammo on them, I suppose the next best thing would be to set them adrift after disabling/stripping their boat.
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November 6th, 2007 05:53 PM
I know it is for aerial targets, but if it can hit them, surely it can hit a pirate boat.
November 6th, 2007 05:58 PM
I remembered this story and thought it insane. "Pirates attack U.S. Navy!"
I've got my money on the Navy. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/wor...ate.attack.cnn
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November 6th, 2007 06:06 PM
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November 6th, 2007 06:08 PM
Time to dig up Commodore Stephen Decatur and send him to those seas to put an end to that nonsense.
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