Voting Rules: A Vote

This is a discussion on Voting Rules: A Vote within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by airbornerangerboogie Heinlein had a good idea in his novel Starship Troopers, only veterans can vote. Now I shall set back and listen.... ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by airbornerangerboogie View Post
    Heinlein had a good idea in his novel Starship Troopers, only veterans can vote.

    Now I shall set back and listen....
    Works for me.
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    Originally in the U.S.A. (IIRC) only landowners were permitted to vote thus the voter was assumed to have a level of education and had a stake in the results.

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    No! It's a right, not a mandate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by raevan View Post
    Freedom comes from having a free choice, If you are penalized for not voting, that is coersion not free choice, therefor you have no freedom.
    +1

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    The question itself speaks of the mind from where it came: big-government-loving, cradle-to-the-grave-enabling, rights-are-privleges-esposing, liberal-minded explitive-deleted super-human politicos who think.... Uh-oh.....there I go again!

    Duh! I voted, "No"
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    Quote Originally Posted by raevan View Post
    Freedom comes from having a free choice, If you are penalized for not voting, that is coersion not free choice, therefor you have no freedom.


    +1 and then some...

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    I think that if the uninthuised denizen is forced to vote then campaigns will become more and more like popularity contests to swing the non-caring "nust have to vote" voters.

    It would be akin to passing a law that everyone should own and carry a gun.
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    Thumbs down NAY............

    ..but shame on you if you don't vote.Double shame on you if you don't vote and complain about elected officials.
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    Well, personally I love some of the ideas herein, but they don't pass muster under the laws of the USA.

    I also agree that it is a right.

    What we do need, however, is more educated and intelligent voters at the polls. Voters that have studied the issues and can make an intelligent voting decisions based on the facts.

    A compulsory vote might accomplish the above (the counter argument being they already vote), and one could argue that masses of idiots voting might well just cancel each other out (the law of large numbers, and even odds).

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    I know too many idiots that have no idea on world events, yet they vote.
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    "Uh, sir, why not go - well, go the limit? Require everyone to serve and let everyone vote?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by airbornerangerboogie View Post
    Heinlein had a good idea in his novel Starship Troopers, only veterans can vote.
    I've posted at length elsewhere that a "right" you have not earned (secured yourself thru your own efforts) is in fact a privilege, revocable at will by whomever granted it to you.

    I agree in principle with the idea that only those who have earned the vote being allowed to do so... but it would be difficult to implement without major social upheaval... as was described in ST.
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    S3ymour I think you have the right idea

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    Voting is a right, you don't have to enact it but if you don't keep your mouth shut about the problems you see with govt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanksoldier View Post
    - Robert Heinlein, "Starship Troopers"



    I've posted at length elsewhere that a "right" you have not earned (secured yourself thru your own efforts) is in fact a privilege, revocable at will by whomever granted it to you.

    I agree in principle with the idea that only those who have earned the vote being allowed to do so... but it would be difficult to implement without major social upheaval... as was described in ST.
    I first read Heinlein's novel in High School, again just after I returned home from Vietnam and in the ensuing years several times again. I was fascinated by the idea of public service (in this case military service) earning you a right to vote. I still think some form of public service should be required in order to become a "voting" citizen. Sadly there are a lot of Americans out there that would willingly surrender their "rights" for security and voting is just too much trouble.
    As for "major social upheaval", if you'd asked me 30 years or even 15 years ago if I thought it could happen I'd of said you were crazy, today I'm not so sure.
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