Poor poor Michigan

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    Poor poor Michigan

    if you didnt know, michigans economy sucks right now, and our lovely gov'ner is doing a great job of 'fixing' it by raising taxes and forcing even more companies out of michigan.
    heres a few facts about it you may not have known...


    1 Gov Granholm is the 3rd highest paid Gov in the country at $177,000 in salary. This does not count her $60,000 expense account. Only the Gov of New York and Calf make more than her!
    2. Gov Granholm's husband has 3 assistants paid by the state. The highest paid assistant makes $117,000 a year.
    3. Our state Congressmen and Senators are the 2nd highest paid at $79,650 in salary. This does not count their $20,000 expense account. Only California legistalatures make more.
    4. Our teachers are the 3rd highest paid teachers in the country.
    5. Our cigarette tax is the 4th highest in the country.
    6. Our Corporate Income Tax rate is the 7th highest.
    Funny how we don't have enough money to pay our bills and the only answer is for us to pay more in taxes, when our public servants are getting fat on our sweat! Pass it on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by friesepferd View Post
    heres a few facts about it you may not have known...


    1 Gov Granholm is the 3rd highest paid Gov in the country at $177,000 in salary. This does not count her $60,000 expense account. Only the Gov of New York and Calf make more than her!
    2. Gov Granholm's husband has 3 assistants paid by the state. The highest paid assistant makes $117,000 a year.
    3. Our state Congressmen and Senators are the 2nd highest paid at $79,650 in salary. This does not count their $20,000 expense account. Only California legistalatures make more.
    4. Our teachers are the 3rd highest paid teachers in the country.
    5. Our cigarette tax is the 4th highest in the country.
    6. Our Corporate Income Tax rate is the 7th highest.
    Funny how we don't have enough money to pay our bills and the only answer is for us to pay more in taxes, when our public servants are getting fat on our sweat! Pass it on...
    I find Numbers 1, 2 and 3 deplorable - what is the relative cost of living in the state? It has to be low compared to many other states! That is just disgusting.

    Number 2: Is he on her staff? What is his role? That looks excessive to me, but I don't have all of the facts.

    Number 4: Kudos! We need to pay our teachers more - I just hope you get a lot of bang for the buck, and I hope it's not getting siphoned off to administrators and bureaucrats.

    Number 5: The favorite "Whipping Post" in the USA right now.

    Number 7: You hit it right on the head! High business taxes drive off businesses. Texas has been a beneficiary of many other state's tax increases. The prrof is in the rate of growth of business and corporate HQ located here.

    I think it's time you folks revolted at the polls, and throw them all out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by friesepferd View Post
    if you didnt know, michigans economy sucks right now, and our lovely gov'ner is doing a great job of 'fixing' it by raising taxes and forcing even more companies out of michigan.
    heres a few facts about it you may not have known...


    1 Gov Granholm is the 3rd highest paid Gov in the country at $177,000 in salary. This does not count her $60,000 expense account. Only the Gov of New York and Calf make more than her!
    2. Gov Granholm's husband has 3 assistants paid by the state. The highest paid assistant makes $117,000 a year.
    3. Our state Congressmen and Senators are the 2nd highest paid at $79,650 in salary. This does not count their $20,000 expense account. Only California legistalatures make more.
    4. Our teachers are the 3rd highest paid teachers in the country.
    5. Our cigarette tax is the 4th highest in the country.
    6. Our Corporate Income Tax rate is the 7th highest.
    Funny how we don't have enough money to pay our bills and the only answer is for us to pay more in taxes, when our public servants are getting fat on our sweat! Pass it on...
    Was there for the first downfall in the early 80's...went to Alaska!
    Came back in the 90's...retired in '99...won't be back!
    Just another group or self-gratifying politicians, too bad they're are all over the country.

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    Next time, elect an American governor.

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    oh believe me, i tried to through her out.
    last election the guy running against her, actually a friend of a friend of mine,
    unfortunately lost. he was a good conservative, excellent business man.
    make grand rapids what it is today. and could have really turned things around.
    too bad nobody had really heard of him, that and grandhore has too many friends in gansta detroit

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    While the current gov. did not help , it has been an ongoing problem of fat cat politicians in this state for a while. The oddest thing, is I see all sorts of people every day spending lots on Christmas. MI does need to turn the economy around , if we want to have a good state to live in.
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    Grew up down river, graduated high school, got the heck out of MI as quick as I could. I miss it a lot, but I'm glad I got out.

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    With the new franchise tax they just passed last year and will take effect this year in Texas I am not sure we are going to keep all the businesses we have attracted.

    What it really boils down to, whether it is your local city, county, state, or federal government, and I don't care if they are Dem or Rep, they all pretty much are sorry individuals. It ain't their money so they don't spend it wisely. Regardless of what they say on the stump, when it comes down to the facts of the matter, if they are either spending more than they bring in for revenue, as in the past 7 years federal budget, or raising property taxes or relying on the economic growth of the past 2 decades for increased tax revenue, they just can't seem to slow down their spending.

    I feel for you up there, but honestly, it isn't any better any place else. And yes Rocky, your right, people in general spend way too much money. How much you reckon all of us on this forum have invested in guns, ammo and related gear. Now that would be one hell of a thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by friesepferd View Post
    if you didnt know, michigans economy sucks right now, and our lovely gov'ner is doing a great job of 'fixing' it by raising taxes and forcing even more companies out of michigan.
    heres a few facts about it you may not have known...


    1 Gov Granholm is the 3rd highest paid Gov in the country at $177,000 in salary. This does not count her $60,000 expense account. Only the Gov of New York and Calf make more than her!
    2. Gov Granholm's husband has 3 assistants paid by the state. The highest paid assistant makes $117,000 a year.
    3. Our state Congressmen and Senators are the 2nd highest paid at $79,650 in salary. This does not count their $20,000 expense account. Only California legistalatures make more.
    4. Our teachers are the 3rd highest paid teachers in the country.
    5. Our cigarette tax is the 4th highest in the country.
    6. Our Corporate Income Tax rate is the 7th highest.
    Funny how we don't have enough money to pay our bills and the only answer is for us to pay more in taxes, when our public servants are getting fat on our sweat! Pass it on...
    sounds about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by friesepferd View Post
    oh believe me, i tried to through her out.
    last election the guy running against her, actually a friend of a friend of mine,
    unfortunately lost. he was a good conservative, excellent business man.
    make grand rapids what it is today. and could have really turned things around.
    too bad nobody had really heard of him, that and grandhore has too many friends in gansta detroit
    Good effort in trying to make a change. I wish you luck.

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    Give it to Canada!

    All good reasons to let Canada have AT least the U.P., if not the entire blighted state!!

    (Just kidding, folks! As a proud Buckeye, I hadda' throw that it!!)

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    Just to make you feel worse I think Hell (Michigan) probably froze over this week too.
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    this week?
    the UP froze over a long time ago

    and yes.. i will be leaving as soon as they give me my diploma

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