If this guy is for real - I like him!!!

If this guy is for real - I like him!!!

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    If this guy is for real - I like him!!!

    Got this today thru email - this is my kinda Sheriff

    TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO

    HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF (Phoenix)

    AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER.





    THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY:

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona) who created the "tent city jail":

    He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for
    them.

    He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their
    weights. Cut off all but "G" movies.

    He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city
    projects.

    Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for
    discrimination.

    He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order
    that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked! up the cable TV again only
    let in the Disney channel and the weather channel.

    When asked why the weather channel he replied, so they will know how hot
    it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.

    He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value.

    When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If
    you don't like it, don't come back."

    He bought Newt Gingrich' lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the
    jails.

    When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he
    replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of the
    inmates were in his jails in the first place.



    More on the Arizona Sheriff:

    With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just
    set a new record), the Associated Press reports: About 2,000 inmates living
    in a barbed-wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have
    been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer
    shorts.

    On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their
    bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degrees inside the week
    before.

    Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their
    chests and dripped down to their pink socks.

    "It feels like we are in a furnace," said James Zanzot, an inmate who has
    lived in the tents for 1 year. "It's inhumane."

    Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago
    started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not
    one bit sympathetic He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates: "It's
    120 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have
    to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your
    damned mouths!"

    Way to go, Sheriff! Maybe if all prisons were like this one there would be a
    lot less crime and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should be punished for
    their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to
    go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers
    money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.

    Sheriff Joe was just re-elected Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona.




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    The guy is for real. The pink color on the underwear and towels is to reduce theft. It seems that before the change, those items were finding their way out of prison. Once he went pink, the losses almost went down to nil. Also, a prisoner has to volunteer to live in the tents. If you volunteer, the Sheriff helps you get a reduction in your time to serve plus whatever program needed to get you back in the straight and narrow. He's been sued up and down by all kinds of ACLU-type of organizations and keeps winning.
    I think I saw his jail in Discovery Channel and it was amazing. Even inmates that decided not to volunteer and stay indoors (Short terms, heat sensitive) were trying to make good by attenting literacy programs, AA or other substance abuse programs. The Sheriff has a quick wit and walks the jail from top to bottom everyday talking to as many inmates as possible, fending verbal barbs and keeping an eye on things.
    Recidivism rate in his jail is under 10%. The national average? 60%
    I'd say he is doing something right.
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    This sounds like an idea for nationwide prison reform. My brother worked as a LEO in Delaware prisions for a few years. It was increadable the 'rights' these convicts had. Most had it better inside than out. He knew a few that upon release they would commit a crime and turn themselves in to get back on the gravy train. I say put Joe Arpaio's methods in all prisions.
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    I heard of this guy before, and he is my hero. Definitely agree with all his policies.
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    Sheriff Joes tactics are the complete oppisite of my new chief. We are now working under what many have deemed the Hug-A-Thug philosophy.

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    He does a lot of good things. I hope that he doesn't become a victim of his own monster though. A lot of such sheriffs end up with a power complex and get themselves into trouble. The sheriff of my hometown was like that. He basically created his own law and eventually wound up in federal prison. There was a sheriff in NC that was a big timer that recently was convicted after basically abusing his office.
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    This guy is my hero!!!

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    He's been doing this stuff for some time. If he was going to fail, it would have happened long before now with the ACLU and other groups after him. I think at some time in the past Amnesty Int'l was after him as well and it went nowhere. I've seen or heard some interviews with former inmates who respect the heck out of him (kind of like the toughest teacher / drill instructor / coach you had in the past). Bobby Knight comes to mind. He's truly a nut and hard-a$$, but his players love him and work their butts off for him.

    Keep it up, Sherriff Joe!
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    Wish we had more people in law enforcement like him - not afraid of the ACLU, not interested in coddling or catering to criminals.

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    I've heard a lot of "mixed reviews" about him as a person and as an administrator. However, when it comes to the way he handles his jails I think he's dead-on. We need more sheriff's that have the guts to stand up to the leftists.

    Btw: his book is worth reading.
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    Maybe he needs to run for GOVENOR!! He has been reelected at least 4 times now. He surly is doin' something right. WAY TO GO JOE !!-------

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    I REALLY hate to do this, but since he is the sheriff in our county...

    When Sheriff Joe first started out he was really doing a lot of great things. Everyone loved him. He took smoking, coffee and adult magazines away from the inmates, along with all of the weight equipment that criminals use to become "buff" criminals. He put them in tents, worked to get them a high school education when they were in jail, etc. When the county wouldn't give him money, he was pretty creative in finding ways to reduce his costs. Baloney sandwiches everyday, pink underwear, etc. He has chain gangs cleaning up around the downtown area, complete with large black and white striped coveralls.

    I used to love the guy. Now, I can hardly stand to watch him on TV. He is the biggest media hound in this state, bar none. Anyone that runs against him is investigated and placed under surveillance. In some cases, they, or their associates in some way, are rousted or arrested. Many, if not most, of his deputies despise him. When they voice anything against him they are fired. He bought a tank that he hauls around everywhere that is supposed to be an indication of how "tough" he is on crime.

    When a problem that gets an elevated level of attention comes up, Joe is there. Green pools that breed mosquitos? Joe will patrol with the county helicopter and pass out tickets. Too many animals for the animal shelters? He now puts them in jail cells and gets on radio and tv saying that they cost a bit more than an inmate to feed everyday, but they are worth it. If the media says anything negative about him, he will call and get close to "threatening". He has lost (as in death, not escape) a statistically large number of prisoners in questionable cisrcumstances.

    In politics, instead of endorsing the Republican candidate (he is one) he endorsed the the Democrat (a friend of Hillary in fact) Janet Napolitano. In fairness, she hasn't been all that bad, but was considered to be a huge political slight to the Republican party. People love him? Well, some do, but over the years most of them have come to recognize him for what he is, a big sack of hot air, that uses his office as a club from which to attack his detracters. He is, IMHO, now a crook. Run for Governor? I don't think he could get elected for that office now, although when he was considered to be a good sheriff, he could have been....

    I have begun voting against him at every opportunity.
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    Oh dear - well I did wonder if anyone had the first hand skinny on this. Sorry to hear that but in a way not surprised, because this is the way quite a few folks go over time when they gain some fame.

    Pity - but I guess he has been in a sense the victim of his own success and instead of keeping flying his true early colors has succumbed to media attention and then simply over doing everything.

    The description supposedly is really what he used to be - which overall seems laudable and effective. But now, well - can we say ''power has gone to his head'' ? Sure sounds like it. Power can and does corrupt - he seems to have been bitten from what you say Randy.
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    Ol' Sherrif Joe is definately a legend in his own mind, and loves the heck out of the media. He has done some great things, (love the Disney and Weather channel are the ONLY cable TV they get!), and some ridiculous things, (all transport handcuffs are anodized pink, to prevent theft. Yeah, right. Yes, I am serious.), and some dangerous things, (marching inmates down the street in thier pink boxers to thier new prison), but his arraognace is what started to tur me away from him too. The article you have is a few years old, too. I wanted him to run for governor, at one time, but he has stated he won't - of course not, he won't be a little tin god any more.
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    I have to agree with armoredman. He really HAS done alot of good things, at least in my opinion. I think his heart was in the right place, at first, even if he was somewhat of a fraud from Day 1. He always built up his days in the DEA down in Mexico. Turned out all he did was push paper around an office.

    He called into a radio talk show this week after another caller had reportedly seen him driving, alone, in the HOV lane. He evidently was listening or one of his minions (he has lots of them) called and let him know he was getting bad press. Anyway he called in to explain that he was driving an alternate fuel vehicle which made it allowable for him to drive in the lane. After that explanation, he promptly started grilling the talk show host about what comments he, personally, had made during the topic. He was noticeably PO'd that the guy even put it on the air. I'm betting the talk show host will get a traffic ticket from the Sheriff's Department soon....
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