How Long Does The USA Have?

How Long Does The USA Have?

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    How Long Does The USA Have?

    HOW LONG DOES THE USA HAVE?

    This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming.

    I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.

    How Long Do We Have?

    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

    'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government'

    'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury'

    'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship'

    'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years'

    'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    1. From bondage to spiritual faith;

    2. From spiritual faith to great courage;

    3. From courage to liberty;

    4. From liberty to abundance;

    5. From abundance to complacency;

    6. From complacency to apathy;

    7. From apathy to dependence;

    8. From dependence back into bondage'

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

    Number of States won by:
    Gore: 19
    Bush: 29

    Square miles of land won by:
    Gore: 580,000
    Bush: 2,427,000

    Population of counties won by:
    Gore: 127 million
    Bush: 143 million

    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
    Gore: 13.2
    Bush: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.
    Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare...' Olson believes the United State is now somewhere between the 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the 'governmental dependency' phase.

    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

    If you are in favor of this then delete this message if you are not then Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.



    Thanks for reading.

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    Good thing we are a constitutional republic with an electoral collage rather than a democracy then isnt it lol .
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    Good point, Redneck. Our founding fathers liked the idea of democracy. They also had a very healthy fear of 'the tyranny of the majority'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazzaerexys View Post
    Good point, Redneck. Our founding fathers liked the idea of democracy. They also had a very healthy fear of 'the tyranny of the majority'...
    I just wrote a paper on De Tocqueville and his predictions for the U.S. Similar conclusion as the OP's contribution. Doesn't look too good if things don't get back to the original plan. De Tocqueville thought the primary defense against the Tyranny of Majority was decentralization.
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    I hate to be pessimistic...but I think we are at step 7...
    "7. From apathy to dependence;"

    Look at the general populace, they want some type of freebies from the government. From things like 'free' health care to banning guns to 'free' education. A lot of people are now looking to the government as a nanny or replacement for parents....Sounds like dependence to me!

    We've progressed from the 'greatest generation' who lived thru the Depression & WW2 to the 'ME FIRST' generation. All we can do is drag our feet & try to slow this 'progress'........
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    Quote Originally Posted by goawayfarm View Post
    We've progressed from the 'greatest generation' who lived thru the Depression & WW2 to the 'ME FIRST' generation. All we can do is drag our feet & try to slow this 'progress'........
    The Greatest Generation started this socialism crap if you ask me. Hopefully, the me firsts will at least get us back to not being forcefully held responsible for others.

    Quote Originally Posted by kazzaerexys View Post
    Good point, Redneck. Our founding fathers liked the idea of democracy. They also had a very healthy fear of 'the tyranny of the majority'...
    I'd go so far as to say that a good portion of the founders hated democracy (and rightfully so!). There's a reason the Constitution guarantees every state a republican form of government.
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    Now that's heavy duty man. Is our nation's demise not listed in the Book of Revelations?

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    Is our nation's demise not listed in the Book of Revelations?
    Nope.

    We simply are not there. Meaning that we are etheir no more, or too insignifigant as to be a factor.
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    "If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years."
    Truthfully we have always proved historically to be a much stronger and greater country than anybody ever imagines that we can be before any major catastrophic event or national calamity.
    That is because everybody always greatly underestimates the hidden raw power of the true Americans such as we have on this forum.
    Those citizens who do not have a shred of a defeatist mentality as part of their internal makeup.
    We do not ever really get really motivated until the S finally does Hit
    The Fan and then we absolutely will not tolerate any attempt at being force-relegated into "helpless victim status" very well...or for very long at all.
    Just my gut feeling on that.
    Do I believe that we are headed for trouble? Yep, probably.
    And when it comes our way then hopefully we'll handle it.
    One way or another.
    I'm not ready to give up on America just yet. Enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    I'm not ready to give up on America just yet. Enough said.
    Me neither. I sure don't like a lot of what I'm seeing, but I think when we start circling the drain, people will wake up and stop alot of the nonsense and turn the country around. At least I'm hoping....
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    Interesting solution to the illegal immigrant problem.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN1kp1ggWyM

    I think it would work.

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    America and its people will always be here, sadly I cannot make that promise to our government
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    Me thinks that Pinky is leaning soooooooooo far left, that she or it is going to fall off the Earth.. (wishful thinking)


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    De Tocqueville haven't seen his name for a little while. Smart man at what he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wareagleky View Post
    De Tocqueville haven't seen his name for a little while. Smart man at what he does.
    Did.

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