This is a discussion on SWAT team terrorizes family whos 11yr son fell at school and didn't go to a hospital within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by TerryD The more I think about it the scarier it is. I couldn't imagine a SWAT team breaking down my door, guns ...
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So the paramedic wasn't there when the kid fell... but he kept exaggerating the story and pushing buttons until he triggered a SWAT raid on the 'compound'? What a power-tripping mouth foamer! He should be sued for traumatizing the kids, falsely reporting a crime, et cetera. I'd make him buy a new door and pay for all the hospital bills too.
Does anyone actually think the state should have the power to kidnap children based on hearsay?
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Sounds like the Sheriff/SWAT team leader may have a Lt. Howard Hunter complex. Some of you younger guys may not remember Hill St. Blues.
HELGA: Where are you going?
HAGAR: To sign a peace treaty with the King of England.
HELGA: Then why take all those weapons?
HAGAR: First we gotta negotiate...
Somehow I think some information is missing. For a trained Paramedic to go to that extreme?
I have some mixed feelings about this. I once cared for a 2 yr old whose dad was throwing her up in the air...just happened to be under the ceiling fan. Severe cranial fractures and lacerations needed to be repaired. They were forced to take the child to the ER where she was rushed to surgery. They did not "believe in modern medicine" and were members of a strict religion that believed in faith healing. The parents took their anger out on me in the recovery room and refused for the girl to get any pain medicine. If any of you have seen an inconsolable toddler, you know how stressful this can get. These were educated people! But, there is the question of whether parental or religious rights should be violated by the goverment. I think if the child was going to DIE without treatment then this would have still been too much. To have SWAT come in to remove the child? This could have been prevented by a home visit. If someone did this to me, I would sue too. And for the boy to be discharged right after?
Sounds to me like prejudice against the family's lifestyle/religion.
Strange,leaves me speechless.
Well, I guess that means most of us can expect the same type of treatment.The sheriff said the decision to use SWAT team force was justified because the father was a "self-proclaimed constitutionalist"
Good God, what has happened in parts of this country where this type of behavior by the "authorities" is acceptable.
And perhaps this father might have a talk with his neighbors about them minding their own business in the future.
I suggest he sues the city and he also names the nosy neighbor who started this whole thing by calling the paramedic in the first place. And surely name the stupid paramedic who really is responsible for this. That jackass should be out of a job right now.
Has anyone seen this posted on the mainstream media web sites, or newspapers?
The paramedics were allowed to see the boy, and found no significant impairment, but wanted to take him to the hospital for an evaluation anyway. Fearing the hospital's bills, the family refused to allow that.
And where are all of the NKW apologists on this one? Jeez, it's all for the officers safety. I want to projectile vomit not only hearing about this, but seeing that there is no general outcry at the way he was treated. You like the constitution, we are going to pee all over those rights you think you have, smack you and put you back in your place (the trailer park).
I hope he owns the freaking city after a lawsuit!!!
Mainsteam media participates in "hoax"....
Or maybe some of you just need to eat crow.
Officers Raid Home, Take 11-Year-Old To Hospital
NEW CASTLE, Colo. (AP) ― A tactical law enforcement team broke into Tom Shiflett's home and took his 11-year-old son to hospital for court-ordered medical treatment for a minor head injury.
Garfield County's All Hazards Response Team raided the home Friday night, a day after Jon Shiflett fell after grabbing the handle of a moving car. The child was returned to the family at about 2:30 a.m. Saturday, hours after the raid.
"Inappropriate is not nearly strong enough a word. It was gross irresponsibility and stupidity," said Ross Talbott, owner of the Apple Tree Mobile Home Park south of New Castle who rents to the Shifletts and who witnessed the raid. "Is this Russia? I don't know what we're coming to when they think your kid needs medical help and they send a SWAT team."
In the end, the injury wasn't as severe as caseworkers from the Garfield County Department of Social Services thought when they went before a judge seeking a search warrant and order for medical treatment.
The doctor recommended fluids, Tylenol and ice to treat the bruises, according to a copy of Jon's patient aftercare instructions.
Tom Shiflett, 62, who said he served as a medic in Vietnam, had told authorities that he had the skill to treat his son.
Garfield County sheriff's spokeswoman Tanny McGinnis said two deputies were first sent to notify Shiflett of a court order for his son's medical treatment and that Shiflett did not comply.
Caseworkers who visited the family Friday reported seeing injuries that including a "huge hematoma" and a sluggish pupil.
Six of Tom and Tina Shiflett's 10 children still live at home.
"In all there was not one shred of evidence found that we had done anything wrong or that Jon had not been properly cared for at home," Tina Shiflett said.
Well, here are some corroborating stories, from area newspapers within a few miles of New Castle, CO:
I have seen a number of posters as
much as call WND liars and hoaxers.
WND was challenged as a legitimate source.
Corroboration has been found.