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    A history lesson

    The History of the Middle Finger
    Well, now......here's something I never knew before, and now that I know it, I feel compelled to send it on to my more intelligent friends in the hope that they, too, will feel edified. Isn't history more fun when you know something about it?
    Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all captured English soldiers. Without the middle finger it would be impossible to draw the renowned English longbow and therefore they would be incapable of fighting in the future. This famous English longbow was made of the native English Yew tree, and the act of drawing the longbow was known as "plucking the yew" (or "pluck yew").
    Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English won a major upset and began mocking the French by waving their middle fingers at the defeated French, saying, See, we can still pluck yew! Since 'pluck yew' is rather difficult to say, the difficult consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodentals fricative F', and thus the words often used in conjunction with the one-finger salute! It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows used with the longbow that the symbolic gesture is known as "giving the bird."
    IT IS STILL AN APPROPRIATE SALUTE TO THE FRENCH TODAY!
    And yew thought yew knew every plucking thing.


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    I thought that story was based on the two finger salute ..... rather than ''the bird" - needing in fact both index and middle for the correct full draw.

    Then the sign was gestured as to mean (profane probably and now for sure) ..... ''hey suckers, I still got mine" - as an another arrow is loosed

    Either way - credible explanation - which I suspect could found on Snopes, but haven't ever checked.
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    I don't know what to say. Yew know more than I on this subject.
    I do feel more educated now.
    eschew obfuscation

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    Factual or not----I love it!!!!!

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    Pretty good! Believable? Hmmmm. Pluck it?

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    Love it!

    I now know the story behind a gesture we in Television make a hundred times a day to each other.

    TV is such a kind a gentle profession to be in...
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    We bow to your superior knowledge.

    Unless you are just stringing us along...
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    I've got a nice Chadwick Longbow and enjoy watching the History Channel. Now the "pluck yew" discription I've never heard but did know about the 3 finger salute. I do agree that IT IS STILL AN APPROPRIATE SALUTE TO THE FRENCH SURRENDER MONKEYS TODAY, TOMORROW AND FROM NOW ON. No love lost there and I just wish my family tree didn't have any French in it.
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    can anyone give the real history of the middle finger?
    now i want to know
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    Do we really want to go here?
    Finger (gesture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
    (might be offensive to some)
    History of The Finger

    The 'plucking yew' story, while cute, isn't true...
    V sign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmidkiff View Post
    Do we really want to go here?
    Finger (gesture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
    (might be offensive to some)
    History of The Finger

    The 'plucking yew' story, while cute, isn't true...
    V sign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I don't belive they are talking about the 3 finger salute. The V sign is for victory but the English Archers had to use three fingers to draw those high poundage long bows. Therefore the salute they are talking about is showing them the middle finger as a sign on contempt.
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    Thanks RHome! That really got my day started off right!
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