Lets say Sixto carries out a search warrant at my house...
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January 22nd, 2008 08:51 PM
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Lets say Sixto carries out a search warrant at my house...
He and Sgt Mac cut up my matresses, tear up my concrete floors and drywall looking for jimmy hoffa or drug money because I'm a suspected dealer. If they find nothing, who pays the bill for re-construction? (because in reality my most serious crimes are j-walking and not always bringing my trashcans in from the curb the same day) Does it make a difference they do find evidence?
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January 22nd, 2008 08:51 PM
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January 22nd, 2008 09:02 PM
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You do, because if they are there, your guilty and they will find the evidence.
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January 22nd, 2008 09:25 PM
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who pays the bill for re-construction?
Your insurance company of course!
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January 22nd, 2008 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
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You do, because if they are there, your guilty and they will find the evidence.
Don't know about that. I've read of planty of warrants carried out with no evidence found. Even seen some on "cops." Maybe a bad tip from some scumbag desperate to make a deal? Don't know how it happens, only that it does.
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January 22nd, 2008 09:46 PM
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January 22nd, 2008 10:12 PM
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If Sixto and Mac both have to come to your house to execute that warrant, what makes you think you will live to tell about it!
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January 22nd, 2008 10:36 PM
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In most jurisdictions, if a legal warrant was issued, the police are exempt for damages done (and they're usually extensive).
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January 22nd, 2008 10:57 PM
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I’ve had it go both ways… but then again we really don’t tear stuff up unless we really have to. I would have to have some pretty good info to tear up floors etc.
I have had searches that don’t turn up squat, and the city/county didn’t pay out a dime, and I’ve found the “mother load” and the city took care of all damages. I don’t know what the rhyme or reason is to it.
The city is not liable to reasonable damages that happen during a search, but I guess sometimes its cheaper and easier to just fix a door instead of fighting in court over it.
I just had one recently that a renter refused to open a locked heavily reinforced interior door for us… so I torn a hole in the wall. Yes, that’s where the stash was. The guys lawyer asked for us to pay damages to the property owner, and the judge laughed him out of the courtroom.
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January 23rd, 2008 02:57 AM
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FWIW, searchs are not fishing trips... we know what we are looking for and why, and must explain this to a judge to get a warrant. A ton of work goes into it before a house is hit. I can detail all of it, but it takes awhile to do it right.
Also If I'm looking for an stolen elephant, I cant go looking in your underwear drawer for an elephant, or tear up your nice hardwood floors because there might be a elephant under them.
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January 23rd, 2008 05:52 AM
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Sure wish the same standards applied to vessels on the water!
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January 23rd, 2008 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
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I’ve had it go both ways… but then again we really don’t tear stuff up unless we really have to. I would have to have some pretty good info to tear up floors etc.
I have had searches that don’t turn up squat, and the city/county didn’t pay out a dime, and I’ve found the “mother load” and the city took care of all damages. I don’t know what the rhyme or reason is to it.
The city is not liable to reasonable damages that happen during a search, but I guess sometimes its cheaper and easier to just fix a door instead of fighting in court over it.
I just had one recently that a renter refused to open a locked heavily reinforced interior door for us… so I torn a hole in the wall. Yes, that’s where the stash was. The guys lawyer asked for us to pay damages to the property owner, and the judge laughed him out of the courtroom.

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FWIW, searchs are not fishing trips... we know what we are looking for and why, and must explain this to a judge to get a warrant. A ton of work goes into it before a house is hit. I can detail all of it, but it takes awhile to do it right.
Also If I'm looking for an stolen elephant, I cant go looking in your underwear drawer for an elephant, or tear up your nice hardwood floors because there might be a elephant under them.
Interesting, I don't suppose that I'll ever need to know that, but I'm a curious fellow. Thanks.
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January 23rd, 2008 07:52 AM
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Sure wish the same standards applied to vessels on the water!
+ 1! We're sailers too......and know exactly what you mean!
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January 23rd, 2008 08:03 AM
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The taxpayers always pay.
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January 23rd, 2008 09:23 PM
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I thought the Po Po ALWAYS came out of the house with evidence.
Not that it absolutely, positively HAD to be there BEFORE they got there...
(just joking, Sixto, and other LEO's - - really, there are hoops through which to jump and court oversight with which to deal...pretty rare , IME, for the police to NEED to plant stuff to get a case...)
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January 23rd, 2008 09:28 PM
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There has been a few times I walked away from a search empty handed... I know what they were doing, they knew it, but they got lucky and got away with it for that day. In each case that we swung and missed, we were able to skin the proverbial cat another way everytime.
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