Is It Just Me?

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    Is It Just Me?

    Yesterday my wife told me that she was taking my 3 year old granddaughter to our local mall to buy her some new shoes. Understand that this is a very upscale mall in a nice part of the community. My first reaction was to tell her that I did not want her going without me(and my gun), because I was fearful of their being harmed. She told me that she appreciated my concern, but that the outing was intended as a grandmother-granddaughter outing, and she assured me that she understood all the rules of safety I had ingrained in her, and that she would stay very alert.

    With a great deal of reluctance I agreed for them to go without me, but must confess that I was very uneasy until they arrived safely back home.

    I am certain that a year or so ago I would not have felt this same deep concern for their safety. Is is just me and my increasing paranoia, or is this something others are experiencing as well? What the heck is going on?

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    Realistic concern <> paranoia, which is the term the unschooled use to describe what they do not understand.

    What is going on is a collapse in personal responsibility and moral grounding. It can be seen in every aspect of our "civilization" (such as it is). Another key factor that's going on is a rapid rise in the number of unschooled, who are utterly unprepared to deal with the reality of such unprovoked and outsized attacks.
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    In short------NO, it's not just you.
    What is going on is a collapse in personal responsibility and moral grounding. It can be seen in every aspect of our "civilization" (such as it is). Another key factor that's going on is a rapid rise in the number of unschooled, who are utterly unprepared to deal with the reality of such unprovoked and outsized attacks.
    I agree.

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    All one has to do is watch the news accounts, and your feelings are certainly justified. I feel the same way about my wife going anywhere...but at least she now takes a weapon with her.

    Ron, does you wife take a weapon along?

    (Did you get that Kimber yet? That would leave a revolver for your wife...)

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    You are not alone in thinking that the mall has become a free target zone. I have the same feeling when my 19 yr old grandson goes to the mall by himself.
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    My wife carries , So I let go shopping
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    I never usta feel that way either........now I think twice when the wife and/or daughters take off anywhere. My wife has confessed to me (in 'so many words' indirectly) that she considerably more comfortable when me and "my buddy" tag along.......and I 'dislike' shopping at malls....especially for "girl stuff".

    My "girls" can only stand Gander Mtn. or Bass Pro Shops for so long.

    Crime in our area isn't getting better or worse, but in the cities and towns that have the "cool malls and shopping centers" crime is on this side of getting out of hand....AND becoming considerably more violent in nature. I'm not paranoid, but I'll continue to take responsibility for me and mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Ron, does you wife take a weapon along?

    (Did you get that Kimber yet? That would leave a revolver for your wife...)

    Take care...
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    No, she does not carry. She has come fully aboard with my carrying, and, in fact, almost always makes sure I have my gun when we go out together, but I have not yet been successful with getting her to the range. But, I have not given up yet.

    Still trying to decide which Kimber to buy.

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    Paranoid, no. Having ones eyes open to reality is probably more the case.

    Odds are that nothing will happen but gambling on those odds is playing with fire of the worst sort. Most people are just more comfortable with ignoring the threat than acknowledging and dealing with it.
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    You have a just and honest concern for your family, and the "what ifs" are all too frequent now. I remember many years ago(with wife #2) leaving the nice mall in town, and we were supposed to be at her mothers at 2:30. We came out of the Sears store, at 2:17 (by my watch) and I am one of those persons who does not like to be late. Her mother lived about 8 blocks from the mall, so we had time, but I hurried her, and we made it on time. That night on the news the big story was the drive-by shooting outside the Sears store at 2:20. I should have heard the shots! I could not carry concealed then, and I NEVER go to that mall without being armed now!
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    I don't think its just you, and I don't think you're paranoid either. Locking doors, being alert, being armed....those are reasonable precautions. There's no reason you shouldn't want to go along to keep her safe - just tell her its because you love her - works for me!

    My wife takes OC and a knife everywhere she goes....no permit yet. But she does want to get one!

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    Mall Hysteria Syndrome.
    Hey they really DO have that name for it now. I heard it on the news.
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    It is by no means just you. I am experiencing the same thing. Luckily my wife also carries and trains with her gun so I feel a little better about her being out with the kids without me. I still don't like it. Not because I don't think she can protect them, just because 2 guns in a gun fight beats one any day of the week.

    What is going on is a collapse in personal responsibility and moral grounding. It can be seen in every aspect of our "civilization" (such as it is). Another key factor that's going on is a rapid rise in the number of unschooled, who are utterly unprepared to deal with the reality of such unprovoked and outsized attacks.
    I would completely agree with this statement.
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    It isn't just you! We live in a very nice, affluent area south of Dayton, Ohio. In the past 2 months we've had one murder, 2 car-jackings and one home invasion in which the invaders put a pistol in a 2 year old's mouth to make the parents compliant. No, you're not paranoid. I too am very anxious where my wife goes and when she picks up my daughter and granddaughter it goes up another notch or two.. concern isn't paranoia when it's rational.

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    Thanks, guys. It's good to know that I am not overreacting in my concern for their safety. It is a pretty sad commentary on the state of our society.

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