First, ElCruisr, my comment about holding a gun to my head is a metaphor for being forced to pay taxes for a government program [that is not mandated by the Constitution.] The system doesn't deny anyone care...IF you pay for it. In fact, our society doesn't deny care to anyone for any reason. Got a problem? Go to an emergency room. No one is denied care.
Originally Posted by ELCruisr
Yes, it is in society's interest to keep our people healthy. But it is absolutely no a Federal government issue. At best, it is a states issue if the voters want to pool their resources to help the indigent. Personally, I prefer the 'good old days' though I never lived them. Where communities, friends, and families looked after thier own. Private insurance mtigates risk and everyone has an opportunity to gamble if they feel unlucky.
I am fortunate. I do have employer subsidized insurance as a condition of my employment. That was not always the case. Rather than buying insurance I put away money every month just in case I needed to see a doctor.
Yes, I see a problem. The fact that your marital status compels the government to give away my money for your wife's heath care. If it cost me $1,000,000 dollars to help my wife I would do everything in my power to acquire it. However, I would not expect or demand others to contribute to my problem.
Do you think you could afford $60,000 a year for a med that might help your wife? I can't. If I divorce her and abandon her the govt. will give her everything but not as long as I'm married to her and still trying to make it. Do you see a problem her? I do.
Sure, our system is not perfect. It is the best in the world with the best doctors, the best technology and the best drugs.
You say in some countries people are dieing waiting for med appointments? You think that doesn't happen here? I don't have the space or the time to tell you of the nightmares I've PERSONALLY witnessed in our system here that have resulted in death or long term suffering as a DIRECT result of how our system is not working.
The touchy feely stuff is nice but the best schools, the best hosptals and the best doctors are in the United States.
You think our system is the best? Hmmmm, I know of a Cardiac surgeon who got treatment for his own heart problem at a hospital in Brazil. Why? Because the level of care and treatment was better there. The same equipment, a doctor trained at the finest institutions and a nurse/patient ratio that no US hospital can come close to. He also stated that there, people actually really cared, personally and proffesionaly about their patients care and well being at a level he has never seen here.
Can you prvide names of nations and hospitals that have better doctors and better resources than those in the United States? I think your claim is wishful thinking and yur frustration over the insurance that unfortunately runs our health care. Our medical system is second to none.
I know, personally, of many others who go overseas for health care not because it's just cheaper but because it is often better. Not sub par. We are not talking about running to a Tijuana clinic for some cheap meds. I'm talking about cancer treatment, spinal surgery, heart surgery and other major procedures. These are not seniors on a fixed income looking to save money but well educated and travelled people worried about getting the best care they can.
I agree with the corruption, lawyers and lobbyists. Big problem. But the profit oriented system is absolutely the BEST way to conduct any business, including health care and medicine. And even insurance.
I'm not saying the socialized medicine model is the right answer is the best answer but I do know that a pure profit oriented system, dogged by lawyers, inflated by corruption and greed, justified by lobbyists and PR campaigns is not working well unless you have plenty of expensive insurance and extra cash to boot.
As I said I feel really bad for your situation and if you suggested a private fund I would likely contribute. I expect others here would, also. But to expect you have a right to health care without payment (meaning I am FORCED to pay) goes against everything I believe.
I'm willing to pay my way but I challenge you to watch one of your loved ones slowly lose everything in their health and be REFUSED care because you can't pay in advance and can't even get insurance and tell me how wonderful our system is. I'm out of here......
Sincerely, best of luck to you and your wife.