Does a gun free zone include explosives?

Does a gun free zone include explosives?

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    Does a gun free zone include explosives?

    FOXNews.com - UC Davis Student in Custody After Explosives Found in Dorm - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

    UC Davis Student in Custody After Explosives Found in Dorm

    DAVIS, Calif. A student was arrested Thursday after two partially assembled pipe bombs were found in a dormitory room at the University of California, Davis, authorities said.

    Hundreds of students were forced to evacuate their dorms overnight as a precaution but authorities said there was no imminent danger of explosions and no evidence of terrorism.

    After questioning four students, police arrested 18-year-old Mark Woods, a freshman economics major from Torrance. University spokeswoman Lisa Lapin said he has been cooperating with authorities. No other arrests were expected.

    Woods was being held on possession of materials with the intent to make an explosive or destructive device and other charges and possession with intent to make such a device on school grounds. It was not clear if he had a lawyer.

    "Police investigators say there is nothing to indicate that this case was related to a terrorist act," a university statement said. "The investigation is continuing."

    Police became aware of the situation Wednesday night after a woman reported that students had possible explosive devices.

    Two partially assembled pipe bombs were found in Woods' dorm room, Lapin said. She said a roommate said he was curious and liked to experiment but was a serious student and would have had no criminal intent.

    More than 450 students had to spend the night in dining halls or at the homes of family and friends. But with no imminent danger of explosions, police waited until Thursday morning to get a search warrant, which requires a judge's signature. Classes were not canceled.

    The students were expected to be let back into their dorm rooms later Thursday morning, Lapin said.
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    He had no criminal intent?...as he was acting criminally building criminal devices in his room going against the rules and regulations of his campus, the state (fire codes!), and the government too.
    Everyone knows building a pipe bomb is a criminal activity and to do so in and of itself is right there, criminal intent. Subsequent application in use of the _bomb_ is a secondary intent, above and beyond that primary activity of criminal intent and action.
    This applies even to economics majors, and especially to those who are otherwise bright and thus smart enough to know better and that they are intending to act criminally.

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    What Janq said, here in Mi they can and will arrest you for making a pop bottle bomb.
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    Only in California could they get away with that assumption.....no intent...right! Besides, explosives aren't as dangerous as guns - those evil guns........... Yeah, OK!!!
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    Anyone ever heard of the Explosives Dynamics Lab at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech)? They do serious explosives related chemistry research and design detections stuff.

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    I wonder how serious these "pipe bombs" really are. Were they actually explosives with shrapnel attached to kill? They may just have been PVC pipes with some denatured alcohol or something like a spud gun. Even something along the lines of crappy homemade fireworks? I wouldn't put it past campus police to way overreact these days.

    In my old dorm, people kept setting off bleach bombs in the bathrooms. Technically it was "chemical warfare" using "weapons of mass destruction" in a "terrorist" manner, but honestly it was just a bunch of stupid kids spilling bleach everywhere.

    remember he is innocent until proven guilty by a jury of his peers.

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    I'm glad I did my experimentation in the '60's in a rural area... made my first (crude) black powder at 12, more serious stuff at 15... had a nice farm field behind the family property where I could perfect my Molotov cocktails...
    These days, I'm afraid to even have a copy of the Anarchist's Cookbook on my hard drive. Gummint snoopers might declare me a terrorist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    I'm glad I did my experimentation in the '60's in a rural area... made my first (crude) black powder at 12, more serious stuff at 15... had a nice farm field behind the family property where I could perfect my Molotov cocktails...
    These days, I'm afraid to even have a copy of the Anarchist's Cookbook on my hard drive. Gummint snoopers might declare me a terrorist.
    When I turned 18 you could still go the the hardware store and buy 40% dynamite over the counter, I would pick up 6 sticks, 6 caps, and 25 foot of fuse and would go to my uncles farm and blow up rocks that were too heavy to move.
    But that was then and this is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutz4utwo View Post
    Remember he is innocent until proven guilty by a jury of his peers.
    ok,
    Anyone want to volunteer to be his room mate?

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    Does a gun free zone include explosives

    I guess not.. Look at New York this week

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    whoa whoa whoa, as a college student myself, i can tell you maybe this kid just wanted to make a bomb, and had no intention of setting it off. Shoot, I think it would be sick to go out to the desert and blow somthing up. The news obviously doesn't tell us everything, but i say don't be so hard on the kid espeically if you cannot prove malicious intent of any kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tns0038 View Post
    Does a gun free zone include explosives

    I guess not.. Look at New York this week
    Thats how we roll in the NYC

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    I think its not the best idea to build bombs of any kind in a dorm. It makes sense to have rules against that. I don't think this should involve the federal government though.

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