"Range" report from UCLA

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    "Range" report from UCLA

    Yesterday I took my daughter to visit UCLA. Here is my "range report".

    The campus is big, beautiful and very friendly. Lots and lots of "normal" looking people with a spattering of people I sincerely hope my daughter does not decide to date.

    There were about 200 people there for the college tour. We were broken up into groups of about 15-20. Lots of people from out of state. We had one lady in our group who was wearing a USC sweatshirt. She feared for her life and held a shopping bag (with merchandise in it) up to her chest to cover it up. (I don't know what she was thinking.)

    We had a new tour guide who was fun to taunt and ask silly questions to. He explained all the finer points of the university and took us on a walking tour of much of the campus.

    OK. Here is the part you are all interested in. At one point he discussed safety. He mentioned that unlike other schools (**cough** USC **cough**) they are in a very good neighborhood. He mentioned there has not been a SERIOUS crime on campus (serious being murder, rape, etc) and that scattered throughout the campus are safety posts (or something like that) with buttons on them. If you press the button, the University police will be there in no more than 2 minutes. What you are supposed to do during those two minutes, he didn't say. I was looking for more of these safety posts. I only saw 2 of them on the whole campus.

    He was asked about the University's response to a Virginia Tech type incident. He said the University has implemented several new security procedures (not mentioning them) and a free text message service that students can sign up for. This way, if something does happen, everyone can be alerted. Wow.

    He added some info about the escort service. I think I saw one of the escorts. I wouldn't want to mess with him.

    At the end of the safety orientation, my daughter was looking at me with a face that pleaded "don't ask about weapons" so I just held my peace.

    On Monday we visit USC so look for my USC range report coming soon to a thread near you.
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    Being in college now, and not to burst a sense of security you may have, but most of the security measures they have implemented do little to no good. My university has all of them as well so I speak from experience.

    Those security posts do no good. At night, the boxes with the bright blue LEDs are known for attracting drunk students wandering around so police response time typically isn't very quick.

    Although the university may not say there have been any serious crimes(rape mainly), there is. Most of it just goes unreported.

    The escort service, while I hope it works there, it is useless here. Most of the escorts are either 100 years old and you have to help them along or the escorts seem to be rather unsavory individuals that you should avoid.

    We also do text messaging alerts and typical time to receive is upwards of 10-20 minutes which is nice, but not instant, and a lot can change in 10 minutes.

    In my experience, the absolute best security an individual can have on a college campus is themselves. You learn to avoid those situations at night and know the right routes to take. Not only do you get more familiar with campus, you must heighten your awareness at all times.

    There is no security measures a university can put into place that can keep you more safe than yourself. I hope your daughter has a good head on her shoulders and just by reading some of your posts, it seems she'll be alright.
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    I grew up in LA and applied to both schools a few years ago. Have dozens of friends who went to both. None of them have been victim of an serious crime.

    USC will be an eye opener. It is not in a safe place at all! You can literally walk across the street and be in a LA slum neighborhood. Campus is nice though. It's a real example of contrast.

    UCLA has some tough police. There was an incident they tasered a student in the library after failing to show his id: YouTube - UCLA Police Taser Student in Powell
    Area around UCLA is quite safe. I really like the atmosphere at UCLA too. It is full of people who want to be there and are motivated to work hard.

    best of luck to your daughter

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    I agree with JHoff. Those blue lights, at least on my campus, don't do a thing. One went off outside my window and I watched it for an hour and no one showed up and then it just went off.

    The escorts are usually unsavory ideviduals and well, more than half of our "security" forces are students, sometimes even freshmen, that if they are on the scene of any incident, they have no idea what to do and instead only act as a relay to call the full time older security officers.

    *Calls Security*.........*Security shows up*.....*Security has to call security*

    Thats usually how it goes, I just hope nothing bad happens on my campus, because no one is going to be deterred by security armed with a flashlight and a roll of quarters.

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    My daughter attends Occidental College (check that one out while in LA!) and her boyfriend went to USC. I told her I didn't even want her going over there to visit him. Heard of Skid Row? It's for real, and right next to USC. Horrible place. Never leave campus. She hopes to attend med school at UCLA, which is in a much nicer area. She did some internships there and felt safe.
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    I can also attest to how useless those "Blue Light" phone dealies are. If you're at risk of being assaulted/raped/killed or otherwise harmed, you really don't have time to dial it up and wait for somebody to come help. They just serve as an attractive nuisance to drunk or bored students.

    The security posts also are only on main pathways on our campus, which is kinda dumb.

    One of my good friends goes to UCLA though and says it's a really nice neighborhood and that the most dangerous part of it stems from the parties/drinking that goes on. If I were a parent I'd be the most concerned about partying safely more than the random violent criminal.
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    My younger brother went to UCLA and found it to be a very safe campus overall in the five years he was there for undergrad and graduate work. I have friends who went to USC and they didn't have problems either, with the small exception of the '91 riots where getting to the freeways apparently intense but that was the extent of it. Given the choice I would rather send my kids to UCLA, if nothing else for the neighborhood. I think you'll see what I mean.

    IMHO a lot of campus safety has to do with the risk assessment of the students to not put themselves in risky situations in the first place. That will go along way regardless of where she goes.
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    They'll probably give her a whistle during freshman orientation.
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    I went to UCLA and it seemed pretty safe. That WAS over 25 years ago, however, so my info may be a little dated.

    I'm sending my daughter off to college this August, to the finest small-town best-in-the-world college you could imagine. But I've found a Krav Maga instructor for her and she'll be taking lessons until she leaves. I've also found an instructor in her college town if she has time amidst her studies. She won't be eligible for CCW until she's 21, though... but we should have second-generation Ruger LCPs by then.

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    Escort service? As in high dollar hookers? Thats allowed on the UCLA campus!! I told my son Purdue was the wrong place to go!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Husker View Post
    They'll probably give her a whistle during freshman orientation.
    My first year at UVA they gave us all little blue cards with the student bail bondsman info on one side and Miranda rights on the other...

    Quote Originally Posted by exactlymypoint View Post

    1. Lots and lots of "normal" looking people

    Don't be fooled!

    2. had one lady in our group who was wearing a USC sweatshirt.

    There's at least one banana in every bunch.

    3. He mentioned there has not been a SERIOUS crime on campus (serious being murder, rape, etc)

    At this point I don't think Jesus hisself could have held my tongue. Are you serious? In the history of the school there has never been a rape? Hahahahaahahahahaahahahahaahahahaahahaha!!!!!!!!!

    4. He added some info about the escort service. I think I saw one of the escorts. I wouldn't want to mess with him.

    Still.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Escort service? As in high dollar hookers? Thats allowed on the UCLA campus!! I told my son Purdue was the wrong place to go!!!
    I'm sure, the right places, it's allowed on our(Purdue) campus as well. I wouldn't know from experience, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me.

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