This is a discussion on Emergency supplies within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; I have discussed a bug out kit before on here, but only recently have gotten around to developeing a kit for the home. I have ...
October 2nd, 2005 05:47 PM
I have discussed a bug out kit before on here, but only recently have gotten around to developeing a kit for the home. I have always tried to keep a stock of canned foods and and water/juice etc.
Since I will be selling pff one of my vehicles soon I will try to whip this into shape. Here is my list. Please feel free to take it and use it, or point out items I have forgotten, or cheaper alternatives.
Please no flaming, either say something constructive/educational or nothing at all.
Must be long lasting easy to prepare, with or without heat and water.
Can goods, MREs, foil packs etc.
5 dozen MRE Self heat packs.
Recommend kit to feed 2 people for 1 month, at normal levels. Could be stretched to 2 or more months at subsistence level.
P 38 can openers
(Also pet food and litter)
110 gallons minimum ,gray water storage for sanitation/toilet needs. + water storage treatment for emergency consumption.
50 gallons potable water.
Distillation unit, or copper tubing and old pressure cooker.
Minimum 50 gal gasoline. Stored in metal drum or 10 plastic cans + locked up in utility trailer.
Wood stove for heat & cooking. + metal floor covering and chimney pipe + adapter to run out window.
Carbon monoxide alarm and batteries.
Generator + power cord
Flashlights (conventional and LED)
lots O batteries.
10million cp rechargeable spotlight.
Weapons and Ammo.
Mosin Nagant + 100 rounds 7.62 X54r
12 Ga Mossberg Pump + 100 rounds ))# Buckshot.
6 emergency flares.
6 dragons breath shells (optional)
.22 Lr rifle + 100 rounds minimum.
.45 or 9mm semi auto pistols + holsters and 100+ rounds each.
hunting knives with belt holsters
1 pk each new socks, + underwear, for 2 people.
case of toilet paper
BIG first aid kit.
Aspirin, Motrin, Penicillin, Potassium Iodide(sp), Alcohol, bandages.
Rifle scope for .22 + mosin nagant
200+ gal fuel storage
Moped or golf cart.
Hand pump for drums.
Survival reading material.
Long distance 2 way radios. (Ham/ Amateur)
October 2nd, 2005 05:47 PM
October 2nd, 2005 06:22 PM
I would up the ammo reserve for each wepon, in a emergency things could be bad (depending on your location).
I would ad a fishing pole and small tackle box, waterproof matches, some sort of fire starters(don't wanna use up the gas starting fires), defently put some fuel stabiluzer in the fuel, also there is a product you can put into unknown water and it makes it safe to drink, that may be worth looking into. Also some small propane bottles(for cooking, or heating or light or whatever). Some sort of air filtration masks of some sort. A compass, a tarp(at least 10X10) a few space blankets, and maybe a assortment of viatimns.
October 2nd, 2005 07:25 PM
I've said it before, GPS.
Just in case you need to go someplace new, or get around something!
EOD - Initial success or total failure
October 2nd, 2005 09:31 PM
sleeping bags, more ammo, better water purification if possible. Learn to make snares and traps if you plan on bugging out to a wood area. Try out your gear before ya may need it. Take a weekend and live as ya plan be it at home or otherwise. A good pack and hiking boots if ya plan on bugging out too.
October 2nd, 2005 10:48 PM
Bruces45 Very good additions. Some of it I had thought of at one time or another, but failed to put on my list. All of it was excellent. This is why I posted this to begin with.
rstickle very good suggestion. I actually have a gps program on my cell phone. It doesnt require a signal from a tower to work either. It doesnt give you a lot in the way of landmarks, but it seems to work well if you use a map, or in my case, I have gps on my laptop and can pinpoint any given address within 100yards. All i have to do is look up the lat/lon on it and then walk there. I also have both 12v and 120v chargers, and an older phone which uses the same battery so I have one fully charged all the time.
Rocky, I have very comfy red wing work boots, that work well for hiking, and keep them oiled up to repel water. My wife on the other hand almost always buys cutsie cheapo shoes.(and wonders why her feet hurt) LOL! I need to make sure she gets a good pair and put them in the kit.
How much ammo would you guys suggest as the minimum for each weapon?
What are my options for water purification. I would rather avoid the purification tablets, as they won't remove metals or other contaminants. I will probably grab a bottle of them anyway, but I would rather find something a bit more thorough.
As for fire starters I was thinking a bunch of those surplus trioxane bars and a bunch of strike anywhere type matches stored in ammo cans.
Thanks guys, keep it coming.
October 2nd, 2005 10:56 PM
I'm tired or else I'd make a very long list. The short version is I have about 13 gallons of fresh water on hand, 3 ways to treat river water, 10 days worth of food, dozens of batteries and lights, at least 200 rounds ammunition for everything and a whole bunch of other stuff I add as I go along.
BTW, if you don't have emergency ammunition, go buy 2 bricks of .22 LR. You now have 1000 rounds of ammunition on hand for about $16.
October 2nd, 2005 11:13 PM
On a side note, I cannot think of too many scenarios which would leave my home standing, short of WWIII that would cause me to bug out. We are in a very good location tactically speaking. We are only 5 miles from the river, but are 800-1000 feet above water. Our power, water and phone all come directly off the main trunk going into town. (in the big ice storm of 2003, out biggest inconvienence was my wife kept getting bumped off of her online games when the lights would flicker. Meanwhile something like 20,000 homes were without power for over a week.) We are almost always the last to lose any utilities. Even at extreme flood stage, we are so far above water as to make a flood nearly impossible. While I do live in a mobile home, we are in an area that is sheltered by surrounding hills so storms are not much of a threat. Even if a tornado came through, and wiped everything out, that is not the sort of emergency I am planning for. Even with the worst of tornado's you only have to go a few miles to find civilization. I am more concerned with planning for something that cripples the infrastructure for weeks or months.
All in all it makes sense to make our stand right here. Or am I missing something?
October 2nd, 2005 11:22 PM
Here is a web site with information everyone with this mind set should have....
It lists the shelf life of foods, and I was surprised at the differences by brand.
For water purification get one of the larger Katadyn micro filter systems, Cabela’s has one that is a hanging bag that process water at a rate of 16 oz per minute and all you do is hang it up ($59.99 extra filter cartridges $34.99), or there are the hand pump type for mobility.
GPSes eat through the batteries pretty fast better have some way to recharge them, like a solar panel perhaps, generators eat alot of fuel, I have several USGS TOPOs (where I live and all contiguous maps) of the surrounding area and a military surplus tritium compass.
You should also have a pretty good sewing kit handy, you will need to keep what clothes you have in repair.
A good set of game processing knives and a good saw, a good bow saw will do double duty, not real pretty on the meat but you will need to cut wood too.
October 2nd, 2005 11:52 PM
Oooohh! Now ther is one to put in the favorites list.
Thanks, f350. You just saved me some trouble.
October 3rd, 2005 01:35 AM
GoodSamaritan, in my club's board we had a discussion after Katrina on what we thought we needed to improve our Hurricane Kit at home. It came out because the kits are never perfect and you always must improve and adapt depending on your budget. So, bear in mind that my suggestions are hurricane-based and may not fit everybody and every case.
One thing I found out I personally lacked is the necessity to stay in touch or to try to get in touch with other people. I lost my land phone for 12 hours but cell phone amazingly did not fail but it got me to wonder "what if it had?" So, my next acquisition is (don't laugh) a CB radio. Some in my club are Ham radio operators and also reccomend to go that way if you can afford a set. So you are right in the money there with a 2 way radio but those CB sets are cheap.
A battery operated AM/FM/Weather radio. I own a couple plus one of those little crappy B&W Battery operated TV. That thing works beautifully although I had to watch it with my reading glasses But it kept us updated on what was going on when our electricity was out.
Another member suggested cordless power tools for repairs after the event is over. I think it is a good idea. Some emergency repair can be done inmediately even if you eventually run out of juice.
Another tool discussed was a chainsaw to remove fallen tress and even some house debris.
Last thing. I can't afford a good generator yet so my favorite power supply is car batteries. I ran the above crappy TV for 44 straight plus charged our cellphones without a hitch. When the power came back, I put the battery back in the truck, started it and went out to charge it and get some ice (which amazinly I did both ). Next items I will buy are a12V flurescent light and a 12V table fan. Gas lamps are too damn hot for South Florida and there was no breeze after the hurricane!
You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
Ego will kill you. Leave it at home.
October 3rd, 2005 08:59 AM
Here's MY list:
Pre Event Actions:
1. Learn about the natural disasters that could occur in your community from your local emergency management office or American Red Cross chapter. Learn whether hazardous materials are produced, stored or transported near your area. Learn about possible consequences of deliberate acts of terror. Ask how to prepare for each potential emergency and how to respond.
2. Talk with employers and school officials about their emergency response plans.
3. Talk with your household about potential emergencies and how to respond to each. Talk about what you would need to do in an evacuation. If someone in the family has a critical job, expect them to be gone.
4. Plan how your household would stay in contact if you were separated. Identify two meeting places: the first should be near your home—in case of fire, perhaps a tree or a telephone pole; the second should be away from your neighborhood in case you cannot return home.
5. Pick a friend or relative who lives out of the area for household members to call to say they are okay.
6. Draw a floor plan of your home. Mark two escape routes from each room.
7. Post emergency telephone numbers by telephones. Teach children how and when to call 911.
8. Make sure everyone in your household knows how and when to shut off water, gas, and electricity at the main switches. Consult with your local utilities if you have questions.
9. Take a first aid and CPR class. Local American Red Cross chapters can provide information. Official certification by the American Red Cross provides “good Samaritan” law protection for those giving first aid.
10. Reduce the economic impact of disaster on your property and your household’s health and financial well-being:
Review property insurance policies before disaster strikes – make sure policies are current and be certain they meet your needs (type of coverage, amount of coverage, and hazards covered – flood, earthquake, etc.)
Protect your household’s financial well-being before a disaster strikes— review life insurance policies and consider saving money in an “emergency” savings account that could be used in any crisis. It is advisable to keep a small amount of cash or traveler’s checks at home in a safe place where you can quickly gain access to it in case of an evacuation.
Be certain that health insurance policies are current and meet the needs of your household.
11. Consider ways to help neighbors who may need special assistance, such as the elderly or the disabled.
12. Make arrangements for pets. Pets are not allowed in public shelters. Service animals for those who depend on them are allowed.
13. Ensure all immunizations are up-to-date. If we are hit with true mass causality event, the bodies may lie around for days or weeks. Rotting corpses will cause disease outbreaks.
14. If you have a disability or special need, you may have to take additional steps to protect yourself and your household in an emergency. If you know of friends or neighbors with special needs, help them with these extra precautions. Hearing impaired may need to make special arrangements to receive warning. Mobility impaired may need assistance in getting to a shelter. Households with a single working parent may need help from others both in planning for disasters and during an emergency. People without vehicles may need to make arrangements for transportation. People with special dietary needs should have an adequate emergency food supply. Find out about special assistance that may be available in your community. Register with the office of emergency services or fire department for assistance, so needed help can be provided quickly in an emergency.
15. Create a network of neighbors, relatives, friends and co-workers to aid you in an emergency. Discuss your needs and make sure they know how to operate necessary equipment.
16. If you are mobility impaired and live or work in a high-rise building, have an escape chair. If you live in an apartment building, ask the management to mark accessible exits clearly and to make arrangements to help you evacuate the building. Keep extra wheelchair batteries, oxygen, catheters, medication, food for guide or hearing-ear dogs, or other items you might need. Also, keep a list of the type and serial numbers of medical devices you need.
17. Those who are not disabled should learn who in their neighborhood or building is disabled so that they may assist them during emergencies. If you are a care-giver for a person with special needs, make sure you have a plan to communicate if an emergency occurs.
You may need to survive on your own for three days or more. This means having your own water, food and emergency supplies. Try using backpacks or duffel bags to keep the supplies together. Assembling the supplies you might need following a disaster is an important part of your disaster plan. You should prepare emergency supplies for the following situations:
A disaster supply kit with essential food, water, and supplies for at least three days—this kit should be kept in a designated place and be ready to “grab and go” in case you have to leave your home quickly because of a disaster, such as a flash flood or major chemical emergency. Make sure all household members know where the kit is kept.
Consider having additional supplies for sheltering or home confinement for up to four weeks.
You should also have a disaster supply kit at work. This should be in one container, ready to "grab and go" in case you have to evacuate the building. Remember to have a comfortable pair of shoes in case you need to walk long distances.
A car kit of emergency supplies, including food and water, to keep stored in your car at all times. This kit would also include flares, jumper cables, and seasonal supplies.
Stockpiling Water Safely
Stocking water reserves should be a top priority. Drinking water in emergency situations should not be rationed. Therefore, it is critical to store adequate amounts of water for your household. Individual needs vary, depending on age, physical condition, activity, diet, and climate. A normally active person needs at least two quarts of water daily just for drinking. Children, nursing mothers, and ill people need more. Very hot temperatures can double the amount of water needed. Because you will also need water for sanitary purposes and, possibly, for cooking, you should store at least one gallon of water per person per day.
Store water in thoroughly washed plastic, fiberglass or enamel-lined metal containers. Don't use containers that can break, such as glass bottles. Never use a container that has held toxic substances. Sound plastic containers, such as soft drink bottles, are best. You can also purchase food grade plastic buckets or drums. Containers for water should be rinsed with a diluted bleach solution (one part bleach to ten parts water) before use. Previously used bottles or other containers may be contaminated with microbes or chemicals. Do not rely on untested devices for decontaminating water.
If your water is treated commercially by a water utility, you do not need to treat water before storing it. Additional treatments of treated public water will not increase storage life. If you have a well or public water that has not been treated, follow the treatment instructions provided by your public health service or water provider. If you suspect that your well may be contaminated, contact your local or state health department or agriculture extension agent for specific advice.
Seal your water containers tightly, label them and store them in a cool, dark place. It is important to change stored water every six months.
If activity is reduced, healthy people can survive on half their usual food intake for an extended period or without any food for many days. Food, unlike water, may be rationed safely, except for children and pregnant women.
You don’t need to go out and buy unfamiliar foods to prepare an emergency food supply. You can use the canned foods, dry mixes and other staples on your cupboard shelves. Canned foods do not require cooking, water or special preparation. Be sure to include a manual can opener.
Keep canned foods in a dry place where the temperature is fairly cool. To protect boxed foods from pests and to extend their shelf life, store the food in tightly closed plastic or metal containers.
Replace items in your food supply every six months. Throw out any canned good that becomes swollen, dented, or corroded. Use foods before they go bad, and replace them with fresh supplies. Date each food item with a marker. Place new items at the back of the storage area and older ones in front.
Food items that you might consider including in your disaster supply kit include: ready-to-eat meats, fruits, and vegetables; canned or boxed juices, milk, and soup; high-energy foods like peanut butter, jelly, low-sodium crackers, granola bars, and trail mix; vitamins; foods for infants or persons on special diets; cookies, hard candy; instant coffee, cereals, and powdered milk.
Buy a box of MRE entrée’s – 72 packages of main course MRE meals and keep them at home. They will fee a familty of four for about a week. It’s no frills eating.
You may need to survive on your own after a disaster. Local officials and relief workers will be on the scene after a disaster, but they cannot reach everyone immediately. You could get help in hours, or it may take days. Basic services, such as electricity, gas, water, sewage treatment and telephones, may be cut off for days, even a week or longer. Or you may have to evacuate at a moment’s notice and take essentials with you.
You probably won’t have the opportunity to shop or search for the supplies you’ll need. Your household will cope best by preparing for disaster before it strikes.
Sterile adhesive bandages in assorted sizes
Assorted sizes of safety pins
Latex gloves (2 pairs)
2-inch and 4-inch sterile gauze pads (4-6 each size)
2-inch and 3-inch sterile rolled bandages (3 rolls each)
Tongue depressor blades (2)
Tube of petroleum jelly or other lubricant
Mole Skin & Foam
Snake Bite Kit
A portable, battery-powered radio and extra batteries
Flashlight(3), extra bulbs(6) & batteries(12)
Oil Lamps (Hurricane)
Magnesium Fire Starter
All Purpose Knife(2)
Small canister, A-B-C-type fire extinguisher(2)
Work gloves (2)
Paper, pens, and pencils
Needles and thread (2)
Honing Stone & Oil
Manual can opener
Fork & Spoon
Plastic Forks, Spoons, Knives
Heavy Duty Paper Plates
PUR Drinking Water System
Extra filters for PUR Water Filter
Extra Case(s) Propane
Heavy Duty Tin Foil
ZipLoc bags (Lg & Sm)
Freeze Dried Dinners
Canned Soups & Stews
Bulk Grains (Wheat, etc.)
Salt & Pepper
Water (1 gal. per person per day)
Sanitation and hygiene items:
Washcloth and towel
Tooth paste and toothbrushes
Heavy-duty plastic garbage bags (to go potty in)
Medium-sized plastic bucket with tight lid
Shovel (for a latrine)
Emergency phone numbers
Maps of the area
Extra pair of prescription glasses
Extra set of car & house keys
Reading material, books, etc.
Games for the kids
Clothing (no cotton):
Heavy, Waterproof Boots
Hat w/ visor
Capelin Pants (4)
Polypro Shirt (2)(short sleeve)
Polortek Shirt (2)(Long sleeve)
Polartek Pants (2)
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