April 16th, 2008 11:18 AM
Off Topic but its happened overseas
As many of you agree I do not like looking down the end of a muzzle. Well today I was walking down the street at on of Bagram Air Field and there were a good amount of Officers with shoulder holsters for their M9s on. I was walking behind one and immediately moved to the right and bumped my buddy off the side walk. He asked why I did that and I mentioned that I was not comfortable staring down the barrel of a pistol. Well he is somewhat sheepish He began to laugh and what not making fun of me being paranoid. Well i was not, I DONT LIKE STARING DOWN THE BUSINESS END OF ANY TYPE OF WEAPON . I guess what I am getting at is for you prior service, What would you do or say to a CPT or LTC with one of these holsters? I just walked on the other side of the street would you have reacted diffrently?
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April 16th, 2008 11:42 AM
I admit that it feels uncomfortable, even if one of my guns is on the table and I have to walk past it. That said, if the gun is holstered, it ain't going off.
April 16th, 2008 12:53 PM
I have to agree with Cupcake, I too do not like a weapon pointed at me but if it is properly holstered it will not fire.
April 16th, 2008 01:02 PM
Originally Posted by msgt/ret
April 16th, 2008 01:17 PM
Properly holstered and riding in a good quality shoulder rig.
It does not bother me at all.
I guess I'm just used to it because I once worked in close proximity to a lot of folks that shoulder carried in horizontal rigs.
I can honestly see how it would initially unnerve folks though but, it's really not a real problem other than a psychological one.
I am not saying that in any sort of demeaning way.
It's something that you sort of pay no attention to if you're around it a lot.
Let's just say that you are carrying at the waist & you remove your holstered firearm from your belt...and set your properly holstered firearm down on the coffee table.
There it is....just resting there on the coffee table...all "comfy-cozy" in its holster...would you be afraid to walk in front of it for fear that your firearm was going to go off all by itself and blow a hole through your legs?
Of course not.
It's really no different.
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April 16th, 2008 01:27 PM
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Yes. I would have simply ignored it.
I just walked on the other side of the street would you have reacted diffrently?
I don't know how the M9 is carried these days, in my day, it was the M1911, and it was carried in condition 3. At any rate, a properly holstered sidearm poses absolutely no danger to anyone walking behind the wearer.
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April 16th, 2008 01:28 PM
I see this ALL THE TIME with Fobbits in A-stan and Iraq. It doesn't bother me too much, except that most of these holsters are locally made and not exactly high quality rigs. The thing that really worries me is that 99.9% of the people who carry like this have never trained with their rigs AT ALL, and would have no idea how to use them if they ever had to. This, coupled with all the "clearing barrel" areas that require constant drawing and reholstering (complete with all the muzzle sweeping that this entails when drawing from a horizontal shoulder rig), doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies...
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April 16th, 2008 10:12 PM
Originally Posted by Magilla82ABN
Goodness gracious, what kind of holsters are they using in the military now...Bianchi Tuxedos and similar? When I was carrying a .45, I used a Tanker's holster.
Originally Posted by OPFOR
I don't use it for carry anymore, but I still have it.
April 16th, 2008 11:16 PM
This is nothing new....I understand where you are coming from, but until a directive comes down that forces people with shoulder holsters to have holsters that are designed for muzzle down, you are constantly going to have a problem. I saw this in Bosnia in 1996, 1997, 1999; Kuwait/Iraq in 2003, 2004, 2005.......BFD.
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