How long until the collapse?

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    Admin Note: The original post in this thread, started by Kerbouchard, is currently post #4. The "out of order" condition was caused by a server time problem, which has now been corrected.

    Sometime during the next Democratic presidency...3-5 years?
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    Got a good towel and I know the answer is 42 I'm set.


    Really though I got a good rifle and shot gun know how to hunt and fish and farm. We have horses as well. Not worried about it. People lived a lot longer on this rock without gas and electricity than they have with it.

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    I'm gona go with Mortin on this one, Dec 21, 2012, because thats what the mayans say.
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    How long until the collapse?

    I've seen several of the 'How long do we have left?' and civil unrest/shtf type posts in the recent months, and I was just wondering how many think it's a real possibility.

    With gas prices setting record high's, a controversial election coming up, defecit spending at an all time high, food shortages(real or imagined), and the economy taking a dive of untold proportions, how long before it all comes to a head?

    I had planned on using my Economic Redistribution Check for another gun or two, but now I am thinking about a deep freeze and a generator.

    I am voting 1-3 years.

    ETA: What I meant by collapse was a rapid, drastic change in how we live our lives or the inability to maintain our society as we now know it.
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    With what is going on globally, not just here, I would say within the next 5 years. Hope I am wrong though. Generator probably would not be much good without gas, and if the shtf I doubt there would be much to go around.
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    We're a stronger and more powerful nation than most folks think we are...or give us credit for.

    It's just that the true backbone, blood, & guts of Strong America is mostly silent and thus largely ignored.

    So......I voted 10 years or more.

    But, hey some catastrophic event could bring something major on sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    We're a stronger and more powerful nation than most folks think we are...or give us credit for.

    It's just that the true backbone, blood, & guts of Strong America is mostly silent and thus largely ignored.

    So......I voted 10 years or more.

    But, hey some catastrophic event could bring something major on sooner.

    Since none of us owns a working Crystal Ball ~ it's better to be prepared than not prepared.

    +1. Never say never, but I'm not sweating it.

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    Well, the Aztec and Mayan calendars simply CEASE on December 21st 2012 and you subtract seven years of Tribulation and you get December 21st 2005. OH....wait....Hmmmmm something wrong here. Maybe something about no man knowing the exact date or time? Something from the Bible, maybe?

    I do think this: The United States of America must be brought to it's knees before any such world order can rise and have real power. This country can only be harmed from WITHIN. Nothing external can harm us to any great extent, but there are forces here that can and indeed strive to utterly ruin this great nation. These forces are much larger than mere political parties or even ideologies. There has to be a sea change inside this country. It WILL happen and it's on the verge of beginning even as we meet a huge change in precedent from the US Supreme Court on the meaning of the 2nd Amendment. Even in the light of this development, mark me, there will be a huge push by the people (notice I said "people" not "citizens") in this country to change it's deeply held traditions away from a love for freedom and individuality TO a love for socialism and cookie cutter conformity. The government will become "BIG DADDY" which is far worse than "Big Brother." Look at the proposals and voting records for ALL the candidates (except maybe the Libertarian Bob Barr) including McCain and you'll have a good idea. With McCain it may take longer but it will still happen regardless.

    In the beginning, we gun owners will struggle through as we always have. But there will be no respite, no relief. Eventually there will be a groundswell of national sentiment that the old way is done and it's time for a CHANGE.... Sound familiar? Ever so gradually the tide will turn until registration, one gun a month, ammo stamping, excise taxes on ammo and all the antis dreams become a hard legislative reality. The final step will be an after thought: Total confiscation.

    But wait! You say. This will mean a revolution, surely. Another Civil war. Nope. Of the 100 MILLION law abiding gun owners I think it's probable that at least 90% of them will meekly hand over their guns with a small whimper: "P-P-P-lease don't hurt me or my family...." Surprise, many of these folks will be those who yowled the loudest that they'd have to pry that gun from cold dead hands.... yada yada yada.

    STILL, there will be the hard core warriors who won't just roll over and die. Those folks will be easily identified and neutralized. NRA/GOA/JPFO membership will be a start. Next will come magazine subscriptions and these forums will be tracked. Folks like us will be labeled as anti American and even as possible insurgents. You can imagine the rest by reading books like 1984 or watching "V for Vendetta" The problem is, this story won't have a happy ending, especially for us. Sometimes I wish and even hope that it will all happen long after I'm gone and I'm thankful that now in my 50s I'm not so drawn into the heart of the conflict until they come for me and mine. THEN ... well, we shall see....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbouchard View Post
    I've seen several of the 'How long do we have left?' and civil unrest/shtf type posts in the recent months, and I was just wondering how many think it's a real possibility.

    With gas prices setting record high's, a controversial election coming up, defecit spending at an all time high, food shortages(real or imagined), and the economy taking a dive of untold proportions, how long before it all comes to a head?
    I think you are watching way too much liberal news. I don't think things are anywhere near as bad as they are portraying. Remember, they are trying to elect democrats and if they show that the whole economy is in a turmoil, they are hoping people will kick out the current crop and elect a new crop of democrats. (Oh wait, Congress if filled with democrats. Hmmmm. So much for that theory.)

    However, I do think we are on a downward slope and if things aren't turned around, then maybe in 5-10 years we will be hurting real bad.
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    Exclamation Ummmm NOT!

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    I love the road warroir trilogy ,doomsday ,waterworld ,escape from newyork let it come soner the better
    Ummmmm before you get what you THINK you're asking for, better talk to the folks who went thru Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans and THEN tell me that's what you want because your scenario is going to be infinitely WORSE. Especially since unlike Hollywood, the dead folks are going to stay DEAD. I see you're in Gainesville, FL. You maybe a student at U of F?
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    I expect everything will collapse sometime next Thursday. Probably about 4:30, Central Daylight Time.

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    I hope it is soon, I'm wanting some cheap land.........

    I don't think there will be a collaspe, a global depression and hard times maybe but not a collapse

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    There's quite a few key things that need to happen before a country like the United States could see an internal revolution... That is of course what I assume you are referring to. As a matter of definition, we are currently in an early stage of pre-Revolutionary society. However, we have been in that state on and off quite a bit for the last 100 years and we're Americans - therefore we have (as QKShooter put it) a lot more guts than anyone else gives us credit for. As for SHTF? What's the point in guessing? If we all had an accurate guess then we could probably do something to prevent it.

    But... things can happen and change at a moments notice. If I'm not mistaken, we all subscribe to this notion due to the point of DC.
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    SixBravo, sorry, I guess I wasn't as clear as I meant to be. I don't mean internal revolution, although I guess a collapse could cause or be caused by that.

    What I meant by collapse was a rapid, drastic change in how we live our lives or the inability to maintain our society as we now know it.

    Honestly, I see Fuel/Oil or Food shortages(not revolution) as the most likely cause of a global/economic/social collapse.
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    if there be trouble let it be in my time that my children won't have to deal with it untill their history finals. that said i do think its a long ways off.
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