Chronic pain

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    I know some forum members here like me deal with chronic pain and have to take narcotics to deal with it.I suffered a spinal cord injury in 1992 that has left me with chronic nerve pain among other things,for the last 6 years I have been on 10 mg Hydrocodone until I ran into a doctor at my gun range that has spinal cord injury pain,He told me about a non-narcotic he prescribes called "ultram"I checked and its expensive depending on dose anywhere from 400 to almost 700 for 100 pills,I can't afford that but my doctor said they make a generic called tramadol,instead of 1 a day you take 3 a day and at walmart it's on their list of cheap medicine so i got 300 pills for under $15.00 this medication seems to work as well as the hydrocodone but without the addictive side effects.If you haven't tried it you may ask you're doctor about it and see if it's an alternative to what you are taking now.
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    I'm in the same boat. Due to some auto accidents and a lot of stupidity on my part when I was younger. I now have some pretty severe arthritis and some ligament damage just above that. It usually causes a very vicious cycle that lasts for weeks.

    I tried all sorts of stuff as well, the narcotics didn't really do much for the pain, although if I took enough of them I could go to sleep. Then a pain specialist put me on Ultram and Soma. (generic is tramadol and carisoprodol).

    This combination has really helped me out a lot. If you have a chronic issue you may want to try these drugs. Neither is addictive and if you bring the level of medication to the level of pain (self medicate and adjust your dose) you may find that you can function again. It worked for me.

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    Tramadol can be addicting for some individuals. Thankfully addiction is not nearly the problem for tramadol as it is for narcotics.

    Soma is a drug that makes the "highs" of narcotics and several street drugs much more potent and last longer. It is also habbit forming, though again not nearly to the level of narcotics. It is not a drug to be taken lightly nor in excess of prescribed limitations.

    Self medicating or adjusting the dose to get the desired effect without your doctor's knowledge is grounds to get yourself fired from his/her practice. Just FYI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gg12 View Post
    Tramadol can be addicting for some individuals. Thankfully addiction is not nearly the problem for tramadol as it is for narcotics.

    Soma is a drug that makes the "highs" of narcotics and several street drugs much more potent and last longer. It is also habbit forming, though again not nearly to the level of narcotics. It is not a drug to be taken lightly nor in excess of prescribed limitations.

    Self medicating or adjusting the dose to get the desired effect without your doctor's knowledge is grounds to get yourself fired from his/her practice. Just FYI.
    Good advice, thanks for catching it and clarifying.

    My doc is well aware of my habits. I wouldn't have it any other way. In fact twice now I've had him reduce the amount of pills I get every month as I was building up a surplus.

    I didn't necessarily mean to imply that everyone should self medicate, just that it works for me and I've seen it work well for others. I learned about this technique when I worked for hospice. I've seen it work wonders but you have to be careful.

    If you're one prone to enjoy the highs drugs produce, self medication is probably not for you. In my own case my Dr. and my wife monitor my intake (at my request). Personally I don't enjoy the high, thats why I like being able to adjust my dosage.

    I was not aware that Soma enhanced other drugs, although I've heard it has a pretty good street value.

    I have some other medical conditions so I've spoken with several professionals. The ones that specialize in pain and discomfort tell me that neither is addictive and much easier on my system. If there is any addiction it's going to be mental. Keeping in mind that drugs do affect people differently, I suppose some could become physically addicted. I've also run into some that are convinced if you take one pill you're hooked.

    For those of you that are unfamiliar with this practice I'll try to explain.

    When you go to the Doctor they give you a maximum scheduled dosage. If your pain is consistent that works great. If you're like me and your pain fluctuates this method works great.

    On days when the pain is minimal taking my prescribed dosage actually gets me "high" sort of. I'm lethargic and thinking is a chore. I don't want to drive or make any big decisions because I know I'm impaired. So, on those days I reduce my medication or don't take it at all.

    The idea is to regulate the medication so it matches the pain level for the day. That way I'm alert and my thought process is much better. Overall, it improves my quality of life because I'm not impaired, I'm also not in pain.

    Like gg12 said, talk to your doc about it before you do it. Some doctors understand and some don't. In all actuality you're asking to reduce the amount of medication you take on a daily basis. You know your max so don't go over the prescribed amount. If your pain level is minor that day you'll wind up taking less.

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    Ultram just jacked my stomach up and didn't do squat, sorry about your pain. I wound up getting prescribed pamelor for pain management, it works too some extent. The bad part is it causes weight gain. I hope you find a good solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    I know some forum members here like me deal with chronic pain and have to take narcotics to deal with it.I suffered a spinal cord injury in 1992 that has left me with chronic nerve pain among other things,for the last 6 years I have been on 10 mg Hydrocodone until I ran into a doctor at my gun range that has spinal cord injury pain,He told me about a non-narcotic he prescribes called "ultram"I checked and its expensive depending on dose anywhere from 400 to almost 700 for 100 pills,I can't afford that but my doctor said they make a generic called tramadol,instead of 1 a day you take 3 a day and at walmart it's on their list of cheap medicine so i got 300 pills for under $15.00 this medication seems to work as well as the hydrocodone but without the addictive side effects.If you haven't tried it you may ask you're doctor about it and see if it's an alternative to what you are taking now.
    I also have a spinal cord injury and deal with chronic nerve pain. I've been Rx'd all different kinds of drugs and narcotics,to include the hydrocodone. Some have helped a little. Something else that I use is a TENS (transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulator) unit. It provides some relief. You might ask your Dr. about it. Good luck with your treatment.
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    Some have helped a little. Something else that I use is a TENS (transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulator) unit. It provides some relief. You might ask your Dr. about it. Good luck with your treatment.
    I use a TENS unit also. It helps. I hate taking the drugs, but sometimes I have no choice. I will check into this Tramadol. Thanks for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistola View Post
    I also have a spinal cord injury and deal with chronic nerve pain. I've been Rx'd all different kinds of drugs and narcotics,to include the hydrocodone. Some have helped a little. Something else that I use is a TENS (transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulator) unit. It provides some relief. You might ask your Dr. about it. Good luck with your treatment.
    I also have a tens unit but the wires and stuff are a pita for me,but seeing how high a zap you're buddies can take is pretty entertaining,whoever says grown men don't cry has never been "enlightened" with a tens unit
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    I had spinal fusion about 1.5 years ago. The pain still sucks. I've tried the tramasol and I'm now on Endocet and Morphine. I hate taking it but I'm one of those that is very narcotic tolerant. I feel no effects from the drugs exceps a little relief from the pain. I've got a sister and mother that had the same operation. We just got my mother off the Oxycotin that the Arizona doctors were just throwing at her. I think when we moved my folks here she was taking 80mg 4 times a day. It took 3 years to get her completely of that. It's hard to tell when she is really having pain now as she as Alzheimer's and it's getting pretty bad any more. Now she only has oxycodone that my dad administers to her. Trying to get him to stop asking her if she is hurting is another thing. She does not need to be reminded if she has any pain. I hope they get mine figured out soon, I sure don't want to stay on it.
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    I have chronic joint pain (feet, knees, elbows, shoulder etc., mainly from previous trauma and or Gout in the affected area) and a bad lower back (way to many minor injuries adding up to f'd up back as I get older)...I've tried several different pain management combos, including Ultram/Tramadol.

    Currently I take MS-Contin, Lortab (for breakthrough pain) with Xanaflex for my back. I really don't like being on meds 24/7, but it beats not being able to walk/function. In the long term, another solution must be found, but this works for the short term. Some of the affected areas, like my elbow (which is down to about 65% range of motion), are only fixable through replacement...getting old sucks.
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    Wow there are a lot of people on this forum that can empathise with what we go through on a daily basis to try to find some relief from the pain
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    Add me to the list- Severe Lumbar arthritis and severe spinal stenosis.I take Opana (the active metabolite in oxycontin, without the immediate release dose of oxycontin), with Roxicet for breakthrough pain (Roxicet is oxicodone, the narcotic component of Percocet, but no Tylenol. My dose for 1 pill is equal to 3 percocet). Also, I use Lidoderm patches. Ultram is good for a lot of people, but is no where near as strong as Vicodin, and doesn't do anything for my pain. I don't get a high from my current doses, just pain relief.

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    another one to list. i"m on percocet 5mg x3,flexeril 10 mg as needed
    for spasms. doc put me on ms-contin (12hr release).took it only
    3x. made me a zombie and stopped taking it.(just way to strong
    for me,no thanks).seeing surgen today (oh boy). any way good
    luck to all fellow members suffering from all youre aches and pains.
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    Get a second opinion on your back no matter who you go to! I didn't get near the relief my doctor said I would and the nurses at the hospital treated the patents like dogs. I could hear people moaning all over my floor and the nurses talking crap in the hallways. When I cam out of surgery my pain was at a 10 and my blood pressure was 265/185 and I am normally 120/78. My wife kept pushing the issue untill they finally Got some one to get the pain down. I feel no effects from ms-contin and percocet that I take for pain other then the lessening of a part of my back pain. I do wonder what will be said if I ever have to defend myself. By the way that surgery was in the SW Hospital in Lawton Ok.
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