The Ballad Of Bonnie & Clyde

The Ballad Of Bonnie & Clyde

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    The Ballad Of Bonnie & Clyde

    Here's a web site dedicated to Frank Hamer, the ex-Texas Ranger who led the posse that ambushed Clyde Barrow & Bonnie Parker.

    And yes, "ambush" is the correct term. They never intended to take them alive.

    posse photo


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    Interesting pic's...

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    Your correct, they never intended to take them alive. Just as Bonnie and Clyde never intended to be taken alive. Bonnie and Clyde, John Dillenger, "Baby Face" Nelson, "Machinegun" Kelly were all ruthless killers. If they had lived shortly after the civil war they would have been riding partners with the likes of Jesse and Frank Jame and the Dalton brothers. None of them were the "folk heroes" the movies tried to make them out to be. They were hunted down and destroyed like the rabid animals they were.

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    Interesting topic, thanks for posting. If it's alright I'll add some local flavor to Bonnie & Clyde info:

    I've stopped at the ambush sight a couple of times. It's out in the middle of no-where. The road is paved and there is a granite marker in place thats been shot quite a few times. The timber has been cut several times so the background looks nothing like the old photos.

    My Dad was 14 years old when they were killed. He remembers the adults were upset over them being killed, not necessarily as fans of Bonnie & Clyde but the fact they were ambushed and killed like they were. Keep in mind back then the media was sketchy and probably generated rumors and false info (<--- well I guess nothing has really changed, other than there is too much media coverage these days).

    One family that I knew of, lived a short distance from the ambush sight and remembers suddenly hearing the hail of gunfire that morning. A member of another family was our neighbor, who was originally from the Gibsland area, he told me as a young boy he actually saw their car afterwards. A few years later he went to the State Fair and someone had the "death car" on exhibition. He wanted to see it again and when he got inside the tent he immediately knew it wasn't the real car and complained about being cheated. Someone gave him 50 cents and told him to shut-up and get lost.

    As a kid I saw a fake B&C car in the 1960's. Later I did get to see the real one while it was on tour. I understand it's now displayed at a casino near Las Vegas.

    I have a Remington rifle like the first one displayed on the link. Mine is a .35 Remington, I believe they were available in at least two calibers. One of the possee members used a rifle like that, though I don't know the caliber. It's a strange looking rifle, mine shoots good.

    I believe there is a store or museum in Gibsland that has a lot of B&C newspaper clippings, photos, etc. I read that they sent for a tow truck from Gibsland to tow the car. You can imagine what type of tow truck was available in 1934. They tow the car, still containing the bodies, back to Gibsland, on the way back the tow truck overheats and the slow-moving convoy stops at an available water source........ a nearby school. They dismiss school momentarily so the students could go outside and look at the "death car". Can you imagine that today?

    Back in the late 1960's my father and a cousin drove to Houston to attend a family members funeral. While at the funeral home, they engaged in a conversation with the manager. He asked them to follow him into another parlor and in there was Mr. Parker....... Bonnie's father lying in a casket. I've done a little research that indicates that her father died in 1914, so it obviously wasn't her father, though maybe an uncle? I haven't had the heart to inform my father it wasn't really Bonnies' dad.
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    Remington model 8 was produced in 4 calibers .25 Rem, .30 Rem, .32 Rem and .35 Rem

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    Thanks for the caliber info. I wonder what caliber was used on B&C? I went to a nearby flea market several ago, and an exhibitor "claimed" to have used a metal detector and found empty cartridge cases that he dug up from the ambush site. He had a few of them mounted on boards for sale. I didn't buy any, since I was suspicious of their authenticity.

    After my previous post I recalled that the shirt that Clyde was wearing was auctioned off for about $90,000 several years ago. Doing a little search I found the related link, which shows the shirt, their car, etc.

    Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow Artifacts at the Primm Valley Resort and Casino Tribute by Jeffrey Sward
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    Interesting site!
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    It appears he carried a .35 model 8 when he met up with B&C. He also appears to have owned a .30 model 8. Website below talks about his guns.

    The Guns of Frank Hamer

    Interesting note, at least one of the LEO's was carrying a BAR. Now that is what I call fire power!
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    Bonnie and Clyde had considerable firepower with them that day including 3 BARs. They also killed several law enforcement officers during their brief criminal career! Being a former LEO myself and having a brother-in-law who is a motorcycle LEO on the Kansas City Kansas PD, I feel that at the time there was no other way to take them. Remember there were no SWAT teams or bullet proof vests issued to the troops in those days. Frank Hamer was a Texas Ranger who had to pursue many dangerous criminals before he pursued Bonnie and Clyde, so he knew what it would take to STOP them. A posse who was armed with a BAR also! BTW, in the KCKPD archives is a photo of Charles "Pretty Boy" Floyd arrested on charges of vagrancy and petty larceny two weeks before the Kansas City Massacre at Union Station in which two FBI agents were killed along with three others by Pretty Boy and his Thompson submachine gun. The bullet holes are still there today, if you are ever in KC and at the Union Station (now a science museum) ask any attendant and he or she will show them to you.
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    One of the things I find interesting is that the Remington Model 8 is a John M. Browning design. Another is the similarity of the safety on the AK-47 and the Model 8.









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