The survivalist mindset

[SubNine]

I read an article in this morning's newspaper about people becoming more self sufficient due to the falling economy and rising gas prices. People are moving out to the country, and growing their own food. It got me thinking, could the World as we know it come to an end due to our strong dependence on oil? I know if Western civilization collapsed into chaos I wouldn't want to be without sufficient amounts of water, food, and of course ammo to keep the desperate crowds away. The more the prices rise, the more I believe this could happen in our lifetime.

I've started to give thought to save empty soda and juice bottles and fill them with water, and set them in a safe place for when this does happen, and buy a few boxes of ammo per week. I know we all believe in preparation, but one side of me is saying "You're paranoid", and another side of me says "Be prepared."

I am fortunate to be still living with my parents, and don't have many expenses because of it, but I have a feeling in the next 5-10 years we could see our world collapse into complete lawlessness, so I want to be ready. What are your thoughts on this?

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[Kerbouchard]

http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...-collapse.html
http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...il-crisis.html

Seems at least some people do.

[sniper58]

If you are paranoid, so what? If you are under prepared, then what? If you start your supply cabinet, the worst thing that could happen is you rotate your stock. Filling soda cans with water won't help. Wally World sells cases of 24 bottles of (their brand) water for less than $4. Add one of those, a few canned good here & there to your weekly ammo purchase and you're on your way. Sterno & a Coleman propane stove should be on your list too.

Will the world as we know it end? I doubt it. Will our way of life change? Highly probable.

[retsupt99]

Look what happened with Katrina? All we would need is for terrorists to plant several well-placed nuke devices or some heavy duty bio/chem devices in multiple major cities...watch all hell break loose for a while, anyway.
Heck, when we have hurricane 'warnings', try finding water, batteries, and other assorted items...what would happen with a more serious scenario?
Most people have food and water for the week...if the supply were to be temporarily cut off...better be able to defend your home. It doesn't take much for some individuals to loot and burn, as we have all witnessed in past years.
In dreaded times...people WILL panic...

Stay armed...plan ahead...stay safe! OMO

[Captain Crunch]

If the situation deteriorates to the point you're describing, you're living in one of the best places on the planet to deal with it.

Alaska, The Last Frontier. (Wish I'd never left)!

[echobaby]

Anyone who believes that this country can continue on it's present course without severe repercussions is either naive or ignorant IMO

[SelfDefense]

Anyone who believes that this country can continue on it's present course without severe repercussions is either naive or ignorant IMO

Our present course. You mean the strongest economy in world? The highest standard of living? Virtually full employment? The producer of the world's food supply? Educational opportunities for everyone? The world's strongest military? The technological leader?

The envy of the world?

Call me naive and ignorant but this is the greatest country on Earth with the best future potential of an society.

What are these severe reperucussions to our continued success? That the poorest among us won't have cell phones, DVDs, IPODS, two cars and cable TV?

These threads always amaze me...

[rmarcustrucker]

You will never suffer being LESS dependant on the goverment, only more. The goverment wants you to join the system...Neo.

[Sergeant Mac]

Our present course. You mean the strongest economy in world? The highest standard of living? Virtually full employment? The producer of the world's food supply? Educational opportunities for everyone? The world's strongest military? The technological leader?

The envy of the world?

Call me naive and ignorant but this is the greatest country on Earth with the best future potential of an society.

What are these severe reperucussions to our continued success? That the poorest among us won't have cell phones, DVDs, IPODS, two cars and cable TV?

These threads always amaze me...

ANYONE can live like a king, as long as the credit keeps flowing.....

What happens when the collection agencies start calling, though?

[HotGuns]

These threads always amaze me...

What amazes me are the people that say "it cant happen here" that will be little more cannon fodder when it does happen.

[Colin]

Funny people focus on the first bit of surviving, but if you plan for the long haul, a background in gardening, blacksmith, woodwork and machining will be worthwhile.

[rodc13]

I don't think it's a bad thing to be prepared for a disaster. I've lived on or near the Gulf coast for most of my life, and it's something you need to think about. I do have a problem with those who gleefully predict the collapse of civilization, and are actually hoping for it to occur. Just like the religious sects who who can hardly wait for the mythical "end of days", and would be happy to hasten it along.

Get to work and contribute something to the society instead of praying for its destruction. I have a lot more confidence in the United States of America than those who predict its imminent demise.

[SelfDefense]

What amazes me are the people that say "it cant happen here" that will be little more cannon fodder when it does happen.

I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm saying it is such a low probability event that it can be discounted. Yes, there might be localized problems such as Katrina or an attack by our enemies but to think we will descend into a Mad Max world is sheer nonsense.

That said, being prepared for the worst is never a bad idea. But to spend one's time contemplating TEOTHWAWKI situations is a real waste of time that could otherwise be spent productively.

Get to work and contribute something to the society instead of praying for its destruction. I have a lot more confidence in the United States of America than those who predict its imminent demise.

+1

[cdwolf]

Our present course. You mean the strongest economy in world? The highest standard of living? Virtually full employment? The producer of the world's food supply? Educational opportunities for everyone? The world's strongest military? The technological leader?

The envy of the world?

Call me naive and ignorant but this is the greatest country on Earth with the best future potential of an society.

What are these severe reperucussions to our continued success? That the poorest among us won't have cell phones, DVDs, IPODS, two cars and cable TV?

These threads always amaze me...

I would if it wasn't against forum rules...JK
None of us are gypsy's so we don't know!!
I will say 5 years from now your way of life as you currently know it, will change for the worse...JMO
History has shown us, man is not a stable creature!

[HotGuns]

I'm saying it is such a low probability event that it can be discounted.

I think the probability is higher now than it has ever been. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong. The Federal Government has been spending lots of time,effort and money to be able to remain viable in a SHTF scenario. Apparently they dont think its a probablilty so low that it can be discounted.

But to spend one's time contemplating TEOTHWAWKI situations is a real waste of time that could otherwise be spent productively.

Actually, I'd rather contemplate it now, because when and if it happens wont be the time for contemplation.