June 9th, 2008 03:41 PM
Article in NY DAILY NEWS
To the Mods not sure if this goes here.
Article by Stanley Crouch
NRA needs to set its sights on illegal firearms dealers
Monday, June 9th 2008, 4:00 AM
Bullets get around, and so do the high-speed limousines that propel them around: guns. Bullets and guns make a very cold team - notorious for not caring about the identity of the target. When the gun is fired, anyone who is not wearing armor and is hit will go down.
Bullets aren't concerned with important or unimportant, good or bad, brilliant or stupid. The bullet's job is mechanical indifference to identity, the persistent ignoring of essences.
Bullets have never cared about Presidents or rabble-rousers or masters of nonviolent engagement. This is why we were shocked by the public murders of John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X, the Rev. Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy. Bullets almost canceled George Wallace's check for the right to live and even sent Ronald Reagan tumbling down.
The crack trade in the 1980s led to many illegal guns floating through the so-called inner city, where a cult of criminality was born and reinforced by the riches to be had. Thousands of people have been slaughtered over the years and guns are now so established to end conflict that touchy, armed adolescents often enjoy intimidating grown men and reversing the pecking order until brutal power comes from the bottom.
The recent shootings in New York have led to one new thought: the sale of illegal firearms should be prosecuted as involuntary manslaughter, as conspiracy to commit murder and so on whenever a weapon used in a shooting can be traced to its seller.
This seems something that the National Rifle Association could get behind since its spokesmen are so quick to explain most murders are committed by criminals with illegal, unlicensed firearms. Instead of going berserk and responding as though any form of gun control is but one more step toward disarming the citizenry, the NRA should clarify its position on illegally purchased firearms.
Though it may sound like a marriage made in purgatory, I think the NRA could eventually be persuaded to back legislation focused solely on the gun runners of America who supply the majority of firearms used in robberies, murders and stickups.
While the group takes the right to bear arms quite seriously, I doubt that NRA members believe their rights should include the sale of illegal firearms to the many youths who were arrested with such weapons last year in New York City. There, more than 1,000 kids - one-third of those 17 or younger - are arrested for carrying a gun each year.
According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, 4,043 illegal guns were confiscated in the city last year.
I cannot imagine the members of the NRA cheering whenever they see television news about another murderous run made by some loon who bought his guns on the black market. Or laughing as they study the amount of corpses stacked up yearly in almost every urban area in America.
Gun fairs are for another discussion. For now, I think we should move to put more pressure on gun dealers to seek another line of work. I also think RICO laws about the conspiracy to commit crime could be adapted to fit the sale of illegal firearms. Then we would be getting somewhere.
If these people want to be indifferent to the slaughters raging through America like wildfires, let's see how cold and indifferent they can be when the heat is on them.
June 9th, 2008 04:04 PM
I don't know what Mr. Crouch thinks the NRA can do about the revolving door that we call our penal system. As far as I know, the NRA has always supported locking up criminals.
June 9th, 2008 06:14 PM
Wait a minute, before you bag him as a typical left wing nut job think about what he says. His whole article is about using laws that already exist to charge the criminals who commit the crimes. He never even talks about finding ways to ban guns, or ammo, or even certain types of guns. What I read in that article makes sense (NRA comment is iffy)...charge the criminals as the gun is only an inanimate object. If all liberals felt that way we might find common ground.
They who give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Previously known as "cjm5874"
June 9th, 2008 07:12 PM
Originally Posted by Free American
The position has always been clear: Prosecution to the fullest. It always has and always be. This article is deceptive as in trying to say that with our stance against gun control, we help illegal gun sales to flourish. Problem is that ATF has an easier job prosecuting honest gun dealers for administrative errors than going after the criminals. I don't know if anybody saw last night on Discovery a program about the Hell Angels and an investigation under ATF. The ATF seemed screwed the pooch so big (how unusual) that they refused to release the surveillance audio and video to the prosecutors and the case disintegrated.
the NRA should clarify its position on illegally purchased firearms.
You want to fight the illegal weapons trade? Get rid of the ATF and assign the FBI to the case. Make the FBI understand that if they make friends with gun shop owners and gun owners in general, they will have a great chance to score some major victories.
The fault lies in ATF for being a rogue agency filled with petty dictators and dangerous nutjobs who will turn on their own agents if they happen to be honest and hardworking. They have created such an animosity that I doubt they will ever be effective in combating illegal gun sales ever again.
You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
Ego will kill you. Leave it at home.
June 9th, 2008 07:23 PM
Illegal sales? Black Market?
The last time I checked, I didn't need a license to sell my guns to anyone. Is this the "Black Market?" It seems to me that if someone is illegally selling guns, then they're already a criminal. Hence.. the term ILLEGAL. Either the gun is stolen or modified in some way to make the sale/possession illegal or the person buying the gun (end-user) is a felon. Straw purchasers are already criminals.
This basically says they should up the minimum sentences for perpetrators of these crimes. Honestly, why complicate things and slap different charges on it? Just up the minimums if thats what they're talking about. Gee whiz!
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June 9th, 2008 07:50 PM
How is a piece of metal illegal? Do they mean guns were confiscated from illegal prohibited owners?
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